Reaching across the aisle - eviltoast

Democratic political strategy

  • Mayor Poopington@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    The Democratic party hates Bernie though. Theyran so hard against him back in '16 and '20. I swear the Democrats would rather lose to a Republican than run an actual left candidate.

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      1 month ago

      That’s because there are only a handful of “Bernies”. A party is not a monolithical block, it’s the sum of it’s members, and the centrists end up being in charge because they are the ones that end up representing the party at most levels. If you want to shift the balance you need leftists to run for school boards, and city halls, and build from there by starting taking over the state committees and DNC members elected by each state (which in turn control the DNC).

      If even the most extreme of the extreme right managed to do it in the republican party, there’s no reason why a moderate left movement couldn’t do it in the democratic party - if anything I would expect it to be easier.

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        Well that would require people to actually go vote every time instead of just bitching online. Or discouraging everyone from voting by saying someone is “Republican light”

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          1 month ago

          Or discouraging everyone from voting by saying someone is “Republican light”

          I voted for Kamala. She was still Republican Light. It pissed me off watching her run to the right, it pissed me off having to vote for a Republican Light platform, it pissed me off that it lost her the election, and now we have fucking crazy man in the whitehouse again because they decided she needed to be more like R not less.

          I’m not voting Republican Light again. Next time I’ll be one of the ones getting yelled at I guess. If we’re going to keep ratcheting right, I’m at least not going to support it.

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              1 month ago

              Guess how well my votes up to now have worked. Maybe the 2024 election will be what helps Dems decide they are done enabling what is represented in OP, and they will present me with something other than Republican Light in 2026 (and 2028).

    • Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      The democrats are still at their core a liberal party, and ultimately running a left candidate would be against their interests.

      What’s really frustrating is the Dems just dont seem to have any vision of what they want. They clearly don’t want the dystopia of the Trump party, but aren’t really offering a vision of something different or a way things ought to be. (And they won’t be able to as long as they are trying to cater to workers as well as the Wall Street class at the same time.)

      • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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        1 month ago

        You are talking about “they” like the party is run by lizard people ruling by the divine right of kings. The “they” in the republican party also didn’t an obviously extreme right candidate and their base gave “them” the boot.

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          Fair point, but how else to refer to it/them? I don’t particularly feel affiliated with the party, so them seems to work.