Lawns suck rule - eviltoast
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      Yea a lot of people are clueless to how much of an effect lawns have on keeping pests away from the house. Mice love living in tall grass while using your house as a buffet and bathroom.

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      An actual ecosystem would keep the tick population down though, but also if you don’t have deer regularly roaming through your front yard you should be fine too

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    We introduced a ton of clover into our lawn 4 years ago and have been letting it self-seed & spread. It’s been great.

    My boomer-y neighbors don’t like it and make comments, but ours is the only green lawn for several blocks because it hasn’t rained for shit all summer. Plus we have wildflower areas so we also have all kinds of bumblebees, butterflies, and dragonflies cruising around.

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      We’ve tried both clover and thyme, but we can’t get them to really take off. But I think we just weren’t doing enough at a time and wildlife was eating it all. Our current course of action has been killing sections of grass with a tarp, then planting the clover and our first patch is doing well.

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        You do need to water it pretty aggressively at first, or be lucky and have daily rain for about a week. ALSO, the first year is kinda underwhelming in general. It really tool off in subsequent years for us. This is our fourth (I think?) year of the clover lawn and it’s really nice now.

        Good luck with yours!

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        I am sorry I was not 100% precise with my internet words. I will go count the minority of lawns in my neighborhood that don’t look like shit after work and report back with exactly how many lawns look bad, how many look just okay, and how many are lush and green.

        I retract my overarching point, made via a personal anecdote and which I presumed was clear, that a more sustainable lawn is looked down upon by many people who favor turfgrass while demonstrating characteristics that those same people generally find desirable.

        Edit It also might not have been a full ton of clover. It may have only been ten pounds of seed. Excuse the hyperbole.

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    I was talking to a guy at my neighbor’s party and he asked how I keep my lawn looking so good. I said “I mow it infrequently, keep it long, and don’t try to get rid of weeds.” In the hottest part of the summer mine still looks good, and it’s full of clover and dandelions for the bees.

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    A colorful biodiverse lawn is nice and all, but I’d prefer not to be harassed by all my neighbors, eaten alive by bugs, and be unable to use the lawn for anything other than looking at and feeling smug.

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      That’s funny because that’s exactly how lawns were created - to showcase that lords were wealthy enough to waste land rather than use it for food production. it’s essentially the ‘smash a bottle of expensive champagne challenge’ of the feudal period.

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        I thought lawns were placed around castles so that besiegers couldn’t get any cover nor have lumber for siege weapons.

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          This is hypothesized as to how they began, but back then they wouldn’t have used turf grass, the just cut down the trees and kept vegetation low. It was an entirely tactical use though. Then it’s believed that the concept at some point started morphing more into a sign of prestige and initially would have primarily consisted of low growing vegetation like thyme. Then of course eventually turf grass was introduced and the concept migrated around to various parts of the world. It was considered a sign of prestige since it was a lot of manual work and it generally meant you had to be able to afford a groundscrew to keep it consistently maintained. There was also the fact that you were showing people you didn’t need to use your own land for food production.

          Then some time in the mid-1800s, rudimentary push mowers were invented and it began to become more accessible. By the mid-1900s almost every new American housing development had a lawn since the technology had become advanced and accessible enough for any middle or working class family to maintain a lawn on their own. This was also influenced by marketing and suburbanization.

          So while it is believed the concept of a “lawn” started as a tactical defense mechanism, the modern concept is more closely and directly related to the rich/nobility using them as a status symbol. IMO they’re clearly still used as status symbols since it’s exceptionally common for people to judge others for how pristine their turf grass lawn is maintained. I’ve even recently had someone mention to me that they know how to tell who the trash is in the neighborhood based on their lawn. I know they’re also used for recreation, but that can even be considered as part of the status symbol aspect as a poor person might not have a lawn and would have to go to the park with the other lawnless riffraff for their recreation.

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      Get clover and creeping thyme. Neither grows tall and both stay green without really any watering.

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      It might help to make it look more intentional, such as a bordered flowerbed with native plants in it that just happens to be the size of most of your front lawn.

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      Good job at least trying to do something. My current city and previous home city have finally started doing more native plantings and my current local city’s uni has started up a significant prairie restoration project right outside the city. There are also a few small prairie restorations going on inside city limits mostly in the burbs where there’s space but I can’t seem to find out what org is running them.

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    I hate lawns. They suck water like nothing, require a lot of work and never look quite the way you want.

    But let’s keep things in perspective here. The big argument against lawns is water use. I agree. But in California, for example, all residential water use accounts for less than 15% of the total use of water in the state.

    If we want to save the environment we should start with what’s taking the remaining 85%.

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      My main argument against lawns is the massive amounts of pesticides, weed killers, and fertilizer they require to look like the ones in the picture. Coincidentally, that’s the point this meme is making.

      Also, just because lawns aren’t the worst possible use off water that you can think of, doesn’t make them not wastes of water. Just because almond farms in California use more water that lawns on the same state doesn’t change the fact that lawns waste water. Those same California almond farms sissy have nothing to do with the thousands of suburbs in other areas which have HOAs that require grass lawns.

      Aside from all that, not all of the 85% of industrial water usage is wasteful. Efficiency needs to be improved, but we do need to grow food to eat.

      So don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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    I grew up in a rural area where most lawns had lots of clover, wildflowers, stuff like that. Never realized that’s considered “unusual” until I left the area and realized, “wow, most suburbs don’t have that!”

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    If you dont atleast have 1 part of your garden unmowed youre a weirdo with bad taste to me

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      or this

      The one on the right is not a common prairie ecosystem, but something that someone’s created that supports native plants. There’s a difference. The picture I link above is tall grass prairie, a tragically endangered ecosystem in Canada and the upper states. The one in the meme is a essentially a big garden.

      Both have value! but one has evolved over time, while the other was recently created. The tallgrass prairie is fantastic for creating fertile soils, and sustaining gargantuan herds of bison (😭) but the one on the right blows it out of the water for pollinator habitat.

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        We have a chunk of our yard (about 30x60’) dedicated to tall prairie grass! I planted it a few years ago not thinking about how prairies aren’t terribly wildflower-dense.

        It was disappointing at first for not being so vibrant, but it’s where our dragonflies like to chill so now it’s the area I’ll protect first. I’ve even considered watering it a few times when it was very dry, despite drought resistance being part of the point.

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          With climate changing driving the Eco-acpocolypse and us likely to reside in an ecological hellscape, I’m sure the grasses thank you.