The Theory That Men Evolved to Hunt and Women Evolved to Gather Is Wrong - eviltoast
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    8 days ago

    [Edit] I think people are misunderstanding my comment. In no way is this meant as something negative. I’ve just come to notice that most men don’t do a little squeal when startled, but women do. I just notice these things and I’m curious why there’s a difference.

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      9 days ago

      I don’t know, I’m a man and I respond with screaming to most things. My gatherer woman is kinda sick of it btw

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        9 days ago

        I’m a man and I scream when something scary and surprising or unstoppable happens.

        I remember a couple of years ago, I was getting breakfast, half asleep, and out of the corner of my eye, a mouse climbed down the kitchen cabinet and ran under the stove and I had no idea what it was at first, just some moving blob, and it scared the shit out of me and I screamed like a child.

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      10 days ago

      I’m not sure this is generally true but if there was a difference it’d likely be due to social conditioning.

      • NaoPb
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        8 days ago

        Or have you never heard women do a little squal when startled? Most women seem to do that, while most men seem not to.

        I’m just curious why there is a difference.

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        9 days ago

        I’ve heard the female screech pretty much all over western societies. I hardly ever hear men do that. So I was just wondering.

        As an autistic person, noises trigger me, and that’s why I noticed females doing it more than males.

        If it is conditioning, it’s something particular to western society, I suppose.

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        9 days ago

        Not true, the fight or flight response is an automatic response of the nervous system.

        The fight-or-flight or the fight-flight-freeze-or-fawn[1] (also called hyperarousal or the acute stress response) is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival.

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          I mean technically all of human behavior is an automatic response of the nervous system. That doesn’t mean it’s not influenced by culture or personal experiences. What constitutes a threat is highly modified by your past experiences, and people can learn to behave differently in stressful environments. We don’t just completely turn off the brain when frightened, that’s nonsense.

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            9 days ago

            We kind of do but there’s no sex correlation between the three responses. Except for mothers. They will go aggressive more often if their kids are involved. But that’s not a guarantee or a norm, more like a statistical bump in the data.

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        9 days ago

        Well imagine a car accident happening while people are walking on the sidewalk. There’s always a couple women doing a high pitched screech out of shock. However I hardly ever hear men do it when it’s almost gueranteed to trigger this response in women.

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          9 days ago

          I think you’ve watched too many movies. If you’re watching YouTube videos you may just not realize that those are full grown men finding new octaves in their vocal range.

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            8 days ago

            What are you talking about? I’m not talking about YouTube at all. I’m speaking from personal experience. Wonen tend to do a little squeal when startled. Men usually don’t.

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              8 days ago

              Are we talking about being startled or things like car accidents? Because I’m a combat veteran and I guarantee you that you will ask the medic for your mommy as they’re giving you morphine. I guarantee you men yelp when shit surprises and hurts them. It’s an automatic response. And this entire charade of innocently asking why on a false pretense can fuck all the way off.

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                7 days ago

                Startled by something happening around them. My example was a car accident happening somewhere in the same street, like one car hitting the other at slow speed.

                You maliciously assuming there is a different motivation behind my comments is what’s the actual problem here. I see people acting like this all the time, thinking in extremes like everything is either black or white, no gray areas. Not giving others the benefit of the doubt. I can tell you this is what’s wrong with the world. All this tribalism and taking everything as an insult or an act of malice. People like you can go fuck right off.

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                    7 days ago

                    Again, assumptions from your side. Bye.