Whole Foods argues it can ban BLM masks because the Supreme Court let a Christian business owner refuse same-sex couples - eviltoast

Amazon.comā€™s Whole Foods Market doesnā€™t want to be forced to let workers wear ā€œBlack Lives Matterā€ masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.

National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if itā€™s forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.

Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high courtā€™s June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case ā€œprovides a clear roadmapā€ to throw out the NLRBā€™s complaint.

The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job.

  • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    You can get mad at Amazon, but really itā€™s the Supreme Court you should be mad at. Amazon is going to take advantage of whatever it thinks will make them more money. The government is the thing that is supposed to keep them in check.

    Edit: A lot of people seem to be reading something different from what I wrote. I didnā€™t say you shouldnā€™t be mad at Amazon, or that Amazon isnā€™t at fault for their own actions. What I did say is that you should expect this type of behavior from a business and should expect our government to do a better job at keeping this behavior in check.

    • @xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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      Iā€™m mad at both. Amazon is trash. The current court is trash. And all the ghouls that got us this shit ass court are trash, from Mcconnell to Trump to every dummy that votes for Trump to the stupid stupid Democrats who didnā€™t fight tooth and nail when Obamaā€™s pick didnā€™t get a hearing and didnā€™t pack the courts at the 1st opportunity. Oh and fuck RGB who should have fucking retired at the start of Obamaā€™s 1st term. Octogenarians who survived multiple bouts of cancer donā€™t have the luxury of hanging out so the 1st female president gets to appoint their successor. Democrats are so fucking inept itā€™s hard to believe that they arenā€™t sandbagging us on purpose

      • Blake [he/him]
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        itā€™s hard to believe that they arenā€™t sandbagging us on purpose

        Itā€™s hard to believe that theyā€™re not doing it on purpose exactly because they are doing it on purpose. The system isnā€™t broken, itā€™s doing exactly what it is designed to do. You cannot use the system against itself. Voting helps prevent the greater evil but that just gets you the lesser evil. If you want an answer that is not evil at all, we need to create that entirely separately, outside of the established system and politics.

      • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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        5ā€¢10 months ago

        I donā€™t disagree with anything you said. Youā€™re right on every account. Weā€™re still seeing it in action as Feinstein refuses to step down and backing up the appointment of judges. RBG and Feinstein both destroyed their legacies by hanging on to power for far too long. Itā€™s insane that Mitt Romney, of all people, is the one I agree with. Heā€™s not going to run and encouraged other old people to stop running and let the next generation have a chance.

    • @alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works
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      ā€œAmazon is going to take advantage of whatever it thinks will make them more money.ā€

      Yea I will in fact get mad at that kind of behavior. Lots of businesses doing it (and commenters like you normalizing it) doesnā€™t make them less responsible for their shitty behavior.

      • @BigNote@lemm.ee
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        They specifically said you can be mad. Itā€™s the first sentence in OPā€™s comment. WTF are you on about?

        • @alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works
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          Did you miss where where the point of their comment was to deemphasize Whole Foodsā€™ fault and culpability in this? Or are you starting a linguistics discussion?

          Edit: in other words, they say ā€œYou should expect businesses to act this wayā€ and I say otherwise

          • @BigNote@lemm.ee
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            You either get it or you donā€™t. I canā€™t help you with your lack of reading comprehension.

            They specifically said that ā€œyou can be madā€ about it.

            You want to have it the way that theyā€™re pushing some kind of agenda, when in fact theyā€™re simply stating whatā€™s true.

    • @_number8_@lemmy.world
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      what the fuck is this shit, on my lemmy? fuck them both is the only sane conclusion, not ā€œitā€™s a business so itā€™s fineā€

        • @SpookyUnderwear
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          4ā€¢10 months ago

          You expect too much from people. The majority of this platform, like most others, is comprised of emotionally immature children. They simply want to screech when they see something they donā€™t like. Not approach the subject from a dispassionate viewpoint.

          We both know what you said. But since you didnā€™t publicly attack Amazon, theyā€™ll strawman it so it appears youā€™re defending them.

          • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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            3ā€¢10 months ago

            Itā€™s kind of wild that Lemmy seems to be even more left and hive minded than Reddit was. In the earlier days, it seemed like it wasnā€™t going to be that way.

            • @SpookyUnderwear
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              3ā€¢10 months ago

              I joined Reddit in 2014. It was great back then. Open discussion (for the most part) was common place. You could disagree, but not everyone was a ā€œfascistā€ or ā€œliberal commieā€. Now insults, extremism, and radical attitudes are common place. No middle ground. ā€œagree with all my viewpoints or youā€™re the enemyā€. Lemmy doesnā€™t look much different.

              Iā€™ve only been on this platform for maybe a week, and Iā€™ve already blocked a dozen instances/communities. Not interested in extremism.

              • @FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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                3ā€¢10 months ago

                I joined Reddit in 2011, it was great. I joined Lemmy after the API price changes meant I couldnā€™t use my favorite app anymore. Lemmy at that time was a lot like early Reddit. It changed at break neck speed. I guess thatā€™s just the times weā€™re in now. Everyone in their tribes and if youā€™re not part of their narrowly defined tribe, youā€™re the enemy.

    • MxM111
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      I can get mad at Amazon and Supreme Court at the same time, but not for this. Having uniform requirements is reasonable thing to do, especially for customer facing employees.

        • MxM111
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          Because business is about making money by providing best services. Having dress code is part of it.

        • @SpookyUnderwear
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          I fear for the public education system when someone like you has to ask this question.

    • @orcrist@lemm.ee
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      Getting mad is not important. Making society better is. And everyone involved is responsible for their own actions.

    • @BigNote@lemm.ee
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      These people are morons with 8th grade reading comprehension skills.

      Come to think of it, maybe they are in fact 8th graders?