Re Benedict Mephistobatch, it definitely didn’t sound like Sacha Baron Cohen at first, but I didn’t hear Benedict. I think The Hood/Parker makes a comment about his voice but I assume any voice change is just Mephisto finding which voice they find the most comfortable. When both Parker and Riri are sitting at the pizza table it’s clear they aren’t 100% there with the jarring camera cuts.
Re Dormammu summoning & agreements. I think that works out and I like it. I did a little digging and due to the events of Spider-man FFH and NWH we know those take place in 2024, and Multiverse or Madness right after also in 2024. Wakanda Forever has a deleted scene that has it starting in 2024, but since it has a “one year later” scene, would put it in 2025. Then Ironheart is supposedly six months after Wakanda Forever. However Multiverse of Madness ends with Strange growing a third eye, then the mid credits has him not worried about and utilizing the third eye. So that scene could have happened anytime. (Although that scene talks about incursions, but it could still tie in).
Re BARF I wonder if she built her own or borrowed and improved on Tony.
Re Taking the deal. As soon as she asked the clarifying question, “And you only want me, it will only affect me?” I knew she was going to take the deal. At that point she’s already accepted it in her head and was trying to talk herself out of it, but she couldn’t. It was such a great scene.
Re Generational Curse. I expect Mephisto helped Agatha obtain the Darkhold, but I think the family curse was just Agatha. Any manifestation of the curse that we saw was just Billy.
Re Mysterio. I hope he faked his death and returns someday. He’s one of my favorite villains.
Re Once in a lifetime genius. Shuri and Wakanda don’t make themselves known to the larger world. Outside of Wakanda few know who Shuri actually is and even if they do, she just has Wakanda technology, no one knows Shuri made it,
Re Natalie. Riri fails to create a duplicate Natalie after the first one is deleted in the magic deal. Riri has no idea why it fails a second time. To me this means someone else (Mephisto) was involved the first time. Second the new Natalie isn’t aware of the old Natalie or what is going on, which is to say a different Natalie, but I’m not sure Riri knows what she’s brought back since she was surprised Natalie could interact with her. Since one of the themes of the show was death/acceptance, I think she brought dead Natalie back.
Re Zeke. To destroy the flowers again. He hates flowers.
I think 1st N.A.T.A.L.I.E. (consistently called that in the subtitles) was simply a sophisticated AI and nothing more. And it was her subconsciousness who managed to create her when Riri was sleeping.
The Natalie whom Mephisto brought back is the real Natalie who was dead. That’s for sure.
Re 8: the thing about Wanda’s boys was that she thought her ones were actually in a different universe, right? Because Billy projected his soul into the Kaplan boy, and Tommy’s into who knows whom. So when Wanda would search her boys magically she couldn’t find them, only the ones from a different universe.
As opposed to Natalie, whom Mephisto could probably pluck from any dimension or plane. So I think she is the original one who was dead - although it could be interesting if Mephisto did the same thing as Wanda and stole her off a different timeline.
Re 10: I wrote this under one of the earlier episode discussion posts already, but I love this about this show. It didnt need to introduce a lot of things itself, because it builds on so many established things. Really feels like MCU.
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Re Benedict Mephistobatch, it definitely didn’t sound like Sacha Baron Cohen at first, but I didn’t hear Benedict. I think The Hood/Parker makes a comment about his voice but I assume any voice change is just Mephisto finding which voice they find the most comfortable. When both Parker and Riri are sitting at the pizza table it’s clear they aren’t 100% there with the jarring camera cuts.
Re Dormammu summoning & agreements. I think that works out and I like it. I did a little digging and due to the events of Spider-man FFH and NWH we know those take place in 2024, and Multiverse or Madness right after also in 2024. Wakanda Forever has a deleted scene that has it starting in 2024, but since it has a “one year later” scene, would put it in 2025. Then Ironheart is supposedly six months after Wakanda Forever. However Multiverse of Madness ends with Strange growing a third eye, then the mid credits has him not worried about and utilizing the third eye. So that scene could have happened anytime. (Although that scene talks about incursions, but it could still tie in).
Re BARF I wonder if she built her own or borrowed and improved on Tony.
Re Taking the deal. As soon as she asked the clarifying question, “And you only want me, it will only affect me?” I knew she was going to take the deal. At that point she’s already accepted it in her head and was trying to talk herself out of it, but she couldn’t. It was such a great scene.
Re Generational Curse. I expect Mephisto helped Agatha obtain the Darkhold, but I think the family curse was just Agatha. Any manifestation of the curse that we saw was just Billy.
Re Mysterio. I hope he faked his death and returns someday. He’s one of my favorite villains.
Re Once in a lifetime genius. Shuri and Wakanda don’t make themselves known to the larger world. Outside of Wakanda few know who Shuri actually is and even if they do, she just has Wakanda technology, no one knows Shuri made it,
Re Natalie. Riri fails to create a duplicate Natalie after the first one is deleted in the magic deal. Riri has no idea why it fails a second time. To me this means someone else (Mephisto) was involved the first time. Second the new Natalie isn’t aware of the old Natalie or what is going on, which is to say a different Natalie, but I’m not sure Riri knows what she’s brought back since she was surprised Natalie could interact with her. Since one of the themes of the show was death/acceptance, I think she brought dead Natalie back.
Re Zeke. To destroy the flowers again. He hates flowers.
Re Connections. Also Thor and his hammer.
I think 1st N.A.T.A.L.I.E. (consistently called that in the subtitles) was simply a sophisticated AI and nothing more. And it was her subconsciousness who managed to create her when Riri was sleeping.
The Natalie whom Mephisto brought back is the real Natalie who was dead. That’s for sure.
Re 8: the thing about Wanda’s boys was that she thought her ones were actually in a different universe, right? Because Billy projected his soul into the Kaplan boy, and Tommy’s into who knows whom. So when Wanda would search her boys magically she couldn’t find them, only the ones from a different universe.
As opposed to Natalie, whom Mephisto could probably pluck from any dimension or plane. So I think she is the original one who was dead - although it could be interesting if Mephisto did the same thing as Wanda and stole her off a different timeline.
Re 10: I wrote this under one of the earlier episode discussion posts already, but I love this about this show. It didnt need to introduce a lot of things itself, because it builds on so many established things. Really feels like MCU.