Personal opinion: Came over when the API changes went live, simply because being forced to their official “app”, which was a pile of garbage in all aspects for me, was too much. And since that started the exodus, I couldn’t be arsed to mess around with 3rd party apps to make them work again, because I was too lazy and it simply didn’t feel like it’s worth it anymore. Made a lemmy account, lurked mostly as I did on reddit, content for doom scrolling was lacking quantity mostly. For me there’s now enough content for the daily scrolling session, where quality posts end about as I start to get bored or need to get my ass up, so it’s a win win here.

It really just feels that more people are here. What I’m missing are a few more different users, because it kinda feels that most people here are very similar in their views, but that also would probably pave the way for more defederation drama.

Since I’m mostly lurking and liberally use the block instance/community feature to simply hide the content I’m not interested in, for me personally it only got better, so I jump in, get my daily fix of memes, news and other random interesting things, comment occasionally and get back to whatever. I’m honestly lacking an alternative, so it’s as good as it gets for now, and I’m happy with that.

Give your head a wobble mate, you’re literally out here justifying the murder of press in war zones.

They won’t get it, the good-vs-bad is so rooted so deeply in their thought process that they don’t even realize it. At this point it’s just cheering for every death of a “bad guy”. It was bad when it started with celebrating the deaths of “terrorists”, then collateral damages started to be fine as well, as long as the target died too, and somehow we ended up here, where full on war crimes and genocides against civilians are okay, as long as they are the so-called bad guys or in the way of a mission against them.

It’s honestly sickening. They are all human beings, and we all bleed all the same. Just because someone’s been born in a Hezbollah-controlled shithole, or is working for an irrelevant Russian TV outlet, they don’t deserve to die, and it doesn’t make their death acceptable.

At what point did I say it was ok? Please please show me where I stated what Israel is doing is ok?

Your initial post was “they fired warning shots, he still went there it’s his fault”, I called you out on that. You doubled down with:

Are…are you ok? You do know how wars work, legitimate or not ones. You target infrastructure, that’s what Israel was doing here. This idiot knows where they were going to be bombing, and set up near it. This isn’t journalism.

You are literally dismissing any argument with “They targeted infrastructure, which is fine, and the journalist is at fault for being there”

and it’s quite hilarious that you’re simping for RT… assuming you got a little tankie in you.

Let’s go, you also need to call me a snowflake for your retard bingo card. Should’ve thought you’re a fucking American. Saying a journalist is a human being and has his human rights is simping for RT and being a tankie. You have lost any respect and value of a human life, like most of the US unfortunately.

I’m fucking done wasting time with this bipolar shit. You’re doubling and tripling down into points claiming that you’re not making those points, and you’re not interested in anything else than making your own point anyways, so whatever lol

Are…are you ok? You do know how wars work, legitimate or not ones. You target infrastructure, that’s what Israel was doing here. This idiot knows where they were going to be bombing, and set up near it. This isn’t journalism.

Again, fuck you and your arrogance. You know who’s mouthpiecing for who, what strikes have been called where and by whom, and seemingly everything else. Obviously, there isn’t a chance that Israel could’ve lied about that and deliberately striking this guy as claimed, since the Israeli government and IDF have proven to not misreport anything and they have never deliberately targeted civilians, journalists, medical personnel, or other persons of interests. Even the OHCHR stated concerns about the excessive bombings on infrastructure in Lebanon and the impact on civilians, potentially considering those as a war crime. Israeli officials threatened to do the same razing to Lebanon as they did in Gaza, and already started to do the same mass displacement orders (also a war crime btw), but they are just warning them to fuck off before they bomb the shit out of them, so that’s all fine, right?

And what is journalism then? Broadcasting from a luxury hotel far away claiming all is well? Those people risk their life to show what’s actually happening, and that’s exactly why they are protected.

So yeah, I seem to be more okay than you, at least I’m not excusing war crimes and accepting civilian casualties.

Get off your podium kid, nothing I have ever said has been in support for Israel or the US wars.

And yet you’re excusing obvious fucking war crimes. Keep lying to yourself and get back to that delicious boot.

Oh, my bad, right. Ignoring collateral civilians isn’t a war crime, because obviously they’ve been warned to fuck off. This is an amazing concept for journalism, you just tell any journalist that is uncomfortable for you to get away or they die, and if they don’t, you just kill them. Isn’t that great?

Civilians are not a legitimate target, without exceptions.

as much as Israel can go fuck itself, they literally told people they were targeting the bridge and finishing up the road destruction"

“Fuck israel, but actually no”. If the same clip would’ve been from the Ukraine with a Russian shell in the background, you would be protesting the fucking ICC already.

You’re a bootlicking asshole, excusing war crimes with pathetic double standards. Fuck you, and everyone coming up with that unhinged argument of “It’s not a crime if the good guys done it”, “it’s not a crime if the victim was a bad guy”, or both at the same time. Fuck you, and your moral pseudo hight ground. People like you are part of the reason that the US and their Israeli buddies can invade, genocide and cripple whole countries with close to zero backlash and with zero consequences.

Yeah, because it matters which journalist is targeted. The good guys are obviously allowed to target journalists of the bad guys.

You are an absolute fucking retard, just as anyone agreeing with this stupid ass take. He and his team are fucking civilians. They are not legitimate targets.

I think the face is what’s most off-putting. It looks like straight from any of the generic “AI girlfriend” mobile ads you see. The environment is alright-ish I guess, for me personally it’s a bit too much into an uncanny valley too, because it looks too smooth, too perfect. It seems realistic, but the more and closer you look it feels wrong, because you don’t have that perfection in real life either, and the AI takes all of the realism and detail out of the picture.

Try taking any picture you have and smack it into an AI upscaler anywhere, and try to upscale it to x4 or x8, and compare the pictures side-by-side directly. Faces lose any kind of wrinkle, detail, markings. The generated image loses all identity it had, and while objectively it looks “good” as in “it’s upscaled correctly, it’s smooth and looks detailed” all and any of the details that give that image something are actually lost. It just has that “AI look”, the generic, hyper realistic “perfection”.

Yeah, they did that with RTX Remix afaik? But that kept the style of the game at least, it just or mostly upscaled textures. The face filter on DLSS 5 is the weird thing for me. Especially their example on requiem put me off, I love the style of the game, the acting was good, it’s been a good mix between great graphics and realism while keeping the resi aesthetic, but the gooner AI girlfriend grace is really uncanny valley territory.

2000 across Europe is not that many, and not every European country slept on infrastructure and electric mobility as we did.

Given that most flagship electric vehicles currently charge at 300-350kW max, and at least in Germany 300kW HPCs are pretty much the top end, 1.5MW are pretty damn impressive. Would be pretty sick to have that charging available for daily use.

All that to say, nothing I’ve said in this thread is the consensus of the moderation team because there is no consensus among the moderation team. If there was a feature to let me remove my moderator badge from comments, I’d utilize it. There is an option to “speak as moderator”, but I think that does… kindof the opposite of what I’d want? (Like it’d make the moderator badge bigger and meaner looking or something. I dunno.)

Absent a feature to remove my mod badge on a per-comment basis, though, maybe I should either 1) try to initiate some effort to get the mods all on one page, 2) step down as mod, or 3) not comment in a way that might be interpreted as a statement of the consensus of the mod team. I haven’t thought through which one of those if any I should do.

I did not want to call you out on the mod badge, it was a legit question. Because if this community is thought/planned to be an anti-AI sentiment only, it’s fair game, and then I can just call it quits and block the community on my end, because I have zero interest in neither techbro vibe code stories nor in anything that mentions AI is bad stories.

Sorry if the comment came out wrong - I just realized there that you were a mod, and probably misinterpreted your comment as well, since the whole comment chain before has been kinda heated too.

But I definitely think that you guys (as in the whole moderation team, whoever that might be in the end) should most definitely set it clear whether this is anti AI only, no discussions, or a critical discussion of AI where, given the name, the majority is obviously anti AI, but critical discussion is welcomed and encouraged. Both are fine, but y’all need to bite the bullet and decide which it is, the current state is … weird to say the least.

Is that your personal opinion, or is that the general consensus of the moderation team? Because if it’s the former, I couldn’t give less f’s about it, if it’s the latter, then you guys probably should rewrite the community description:

“A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype.”

I’d not call something a discussion if no other or more differentiated opinion is allowed, and putting that up as a community description while reacting with a “yeah, here’s the door, you kinda definitely should leave” is a fucking joke.

You’re dropping assumptions, and nothing more. Why do you think they asked for disclosure of AI usage? People are gonna use it anyway, officially or not. They did this call for this so that it can be reviewed properly.

One where we critically discuss issues with and around AI, but it seems we’re just chanting “AI bad” in a circlejerk.

If they didn’t care enough to write the code, what makes you think they cared enough to review or test the code?

Contributors =/= Maintainers.

I’ve never told anyone how to do their activism, I’ve criticized the consequences of said activism, which I still haven’t got answered, and the lack of objective arguments for this specific instance of activism, which I still haven’t heard, except for “AI bad lol”.

I’ve been rolling with the definition of slop that’s kinda universally agreed on, that is low quality, spammy AI generated content, and I’d ask again for an example of that in vim, but since your definition is “LLM used = slop”, I don’t need to do that here I guess. Also, you’ve missed the irony of telling me to not tell people what slop is, while telling me what slop is right after.

I don’t understand how you can be so dense to call that an easy problem that’s just boom done. It’s not about compiling and aliasing it, you can do that on probably any commit of vim. It’s about the maintenance and longevity of the fork, who’s gonna support it, and will it have a proper level of maintenance that will make it productively usable in the long term? It’s been forked to a “pre-AI” state of vim, how is it known that it’s not having LLM generated (as in LLM assisted) content already, before the official guidelines have mentioned that? If all that makes evi stand out is a strict no-ai policy, how is this gonna be checked and enforced (e.g human developer uses LLM tooling on his local machine, without disclosing it)? Who are the developers behind it, greetings from xz and similar supply chain attacks? How are upstream changes and fixes handled, since you’ll use it at some point with elevated privileges or to edit sensitive files? But yeah, fuck all of that, it compiles and you can just alias it, right, so we can talk about the severe problems in the open issues - will vim script be renamed too, and we need to rename vimrc to evirc asap, and boom done.

I’ve said it here at some point already, screeching “AI IS BAD REEEE” is not helping the case, it’s discrediting the “movement” or “activism” as a whole. AI will not leave. When the bubble bursts, people will stop shoving it everywhere, but it will stay where it can be used properly. Software engineering is something where it CAN be used properly, since whatever you’re building doesn’t give a flying fuck about who’s been writing the code. It’s either good, or it’s bad. Instead of worthless decisions on principle, do better. Coach and talk with people on how to do better, how to live in a world with AI responsibly and for good. Avoid, boycott and fork the ones deciding to not do that, based on objective reasons, and build it better. That’s what activism is about, using your actions to lead to change for the better, or isn’t it? And I don’t see how a hard fork, with all the mentioned consequences and problems, for the simple reason of vim maintainers saying “disclose AI usage” is leading to anything better just for the reason of shoveling an antislop and no-ai tag into the codeberg repository.

Of course it works fucking fine if it’s a hard fork of a stable state.

What mental gymnastics? The ones you’re doing right now. You have not answered a single question from my comment. And what “problem” did you solve exactly? Has there been any issue that has come up because of the acceptance of AI in vim? What kind of “slop” is actually there that makes vim problematic for you?

People vibe coding random bullshit ideas because they now can, do indeed produce slop. A bunch of highly experienced devs working on a successful project for years using tools that are at their disposal properly is not slop. You’re lending your public voice to a split of the community and of the project for made up bullshit reasons based on no objective proof but claims of slop and out of principle.

I’d trust the original vim maintainers to decide what’s a good or bad pull, instead of a bunch of random people who simply hard forked for literally no reason.

Wait, so because vim is allowing code written with AI we are switching to a random fork? The mental gymnastics here are insane once again. Is someone assuming that the vim maintainers are gonna do agentic requests? How is this project gonna handle upstream changes into their own main? Cherry-picking only “confirmed human-only” commits? Decisions like that out of spite, with zero thoughts and just out of principle do not help against slop. You’re just adding human slop to the AI slop.

It’s not about a different function providing different randomness, but providing a compatible implementation for environments not supporting the “regular” implementation.

If this screenshot is legit, I guarantee you that either the library is older and there was some weird branching for IE or it’s brand new and had branching for the hot new JS runtime / cross compiling.

Supporting a metric fuckton of browsers and environments takes the same amount of shims.

My interpretation was OP isn’t necessarily the target here, but a victim of some Windows hack spreading around their shared network. It’s possible the whole network was “worth” such attention.

Yeah, it might be that another system in the network was the initially compromised system, but I’m questioning whether Windows malware would be able to spread over wine to a unix machine to actually cause damage there. But that’s an attack vector I literally have zero idea about, just kinda seems suspicious.

And yeah, everything in OPs story is absolutely plausible, but it’s more of a gut feeling given the provided information that it just feels off. I might be fully in the wrong here, and they’re the unluckiest random person to ever have touched a unix machine, I don’t know. Definitely curious how this will develop though.

Something about this post is weird as fuck and some part of this story is missing for sure.

First of all, routine scans with ClamAV. Why are you routinely scanning your system, and what’s your expectation here? In most cases system compromise happens by executing something malicious or by exploiting something on your system, For the former, an active background scanner would help, but not a routine scan, and it’s easier to just not execute suspicious stuff. For the latter, your routine scanning is worthless.

Then the compromise over a WINE DLL seems something between borderline impossible on one hand, and like a very targeted and handcrafted attack on the other hand. Sure, wine is not a sandbox, but seeing this as the point of entry for a full blown persistent RAT is weirding me out massively.

Lastly, “them” setting up seemingly good persistence on your system, yet not hiding any indicators of compromise, and then nuking everything when they are seen. Why that effort? Either set yourself up for the long run and hide, or when detected just say “eh, whatever”. This also seems weird, since on one hand there’s indication for a professional, targeted attack, and other points sound more like rookie script kiddies.

Lastly, you. You seem like a pretty confident user while getting hit like that. It just feels off.

I’m not claiming you’re lying, and I couldn’t blame you for leaving information out because of opsec. But everything about this story feels off. I kinda assume that you’ve been actively targeted, and you should ask yourself why. What information or access do you have? How have you been pwned that “easily” and where did that DLL come from? How was it placed and executed?