@volodya_ilich - eviltoast
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  • If you read the article, it’s talking about a 2-year anniversary of some deliberation made by UN, not about any new evidence of anything. There’s a claim of “hundreds of thousands still remain wrongfully imprisoned”, but I beg you to find a source for that because the article doesn’t provide any… because it’s not true. The focus of the article is “there’s been no punishment yet on any Chinese officials, and the laws are still in place”. No (sourced) metrics of people suffering any abuses, nothing, just a general condemnation without evidence. Did you even read it?


  • The events that led to the conquest of northern Africa by Arabs took place what, 1000+ years ago? You can hardly argue that “Arabs are colonialists” in modern times by judging 1000+ years old historical events, in the same way you probably wouldn’t judge modern Greek people as colonialists because they speak an Indo-European language and Indo-European languages are spoken all over the continent of Europe and much beyond.












  • Ok, can you please give me other metrics? How many nuclear plants have been built? How much has been invested into new rail infrastructure, whether for freight or for passengers? Have there been any new tariffs on the import of electric vehicles? Any regulation against single family housing, against car dependency, or against meat consumption?

    Please, what metrics have improved, other than renewables being installed (at a much lower rate than in many countries)?


  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

    Exclusively anecdotic evidence

    Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

    No evidence whatsoever, not even anecdotic. Look at the economic evolution of Xinjiang over time

    Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

    Uyghur people were generally excluded from the single-child policy. By that logic, Han ethnics were genocided even more.

    Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

    Exclusively anecdotal evidence

    Please, be more serious with genocide accusations. This is a serious case of “Nayirah’s testimony” all over again. Basing serious accusations of genocide against an ethnicity on isolated anecdotal evidence, most of it from anonymous interviews, is simply not enough in my opinion, especially when the claim comes against a geopolitical enemy of the USA.

    All your sources are from 2021 or earlier, and there’s been absolutely no further evidence of anything you say. Reeducation camps (which the Chinese government recognised existed as part of a counter-terrorism initiative, and which existed for about 5 years) are closed, no more anecdotal evidence has popped up, and there’s no concerns anymore that there’s any genocide ongoing against Uyghur people.

    If you’re concerned about prison population of a particular ethnicity, I highly recommend you look at incarceration rates of black people in the USA, which instead of being anecdotic and lasting 5-years, are a systemic issue that has existed for as long as the country has, and has no signs of stopping. I hope you don’t make the claim that the US is genociding black people?