space_comrade [he/him]

How’s Asahi Linux going nowadays tho? I know it’s probably not perfect but is it usable day to day?

How can you prove B exists if it’s not measurable?

Because I’ve felt it, I’ve felt how understanding feels, because ultimately understanding is a conscious experience within a mind, you cannot define understanding without referencing conscious experience, you cannot possibly define it only in terms of behavior or function. So either you have to concede that every floating point multiplication in a digital chip “feels like something” at some level or you show what specific kind of floating point multiplication does.

Also what’s inherently wrong with art being generated by a computer? Not every piece of art made by a human is this unique, incredibly creative never before seen thing nor it needs to be as such, in fact most human made art is just rehashing of previous things.

“Understand” is not a well-defined or measurable thing.

So why attribute it to an LLM in the first place then? All of the LLMs are just floating point numbers being multiplied and added inside a digital computer, the onus is on the AI bros to show what kind of floating point multiplication is real “understanding”.

It’s pretty close, you just don’t want to admit it because you’ve been taught to hate that word.

It’s pretty close, not sure why you’re being so belligerent over this.

Would that have even worked? I can’t imagine you’d be able to get anything better than PS2 graphics with just an extra CPU.

I don’t see anything that an iPhone offers me that is way better than an mid/high end android.

Idk they creep me the fuck out with those legs and also they move way too fast.

Thanks, I might consider it when my current Pixel kicks it, I’m not really into the fairtrade greenwashing bs but if it’s legit durable and repairable I’ll pay the price premium.

Do these things really deliver on their promise? Did anybody have one for multiple years? Is it really easily repairable? Is it more durable than your average smartphone?

You literally called one of the trailblazers of the entire field a “new age mystic”. I don’t really plan on taking you seriously anymore, thanks for all the kind words tho, take care.

Now stop being a redditbrained contradictory little shit and read my comment.

No, you wrote it all for nothing.

Damn you’re a complete grating asshole, I’m not reading all of that shit but I do know at least this is wrong:

You’re not going to find anyone actually employed in quantum theory or research espousing it.

Eugene Wigner, John von Neumann, Roger Penrose, Brian Josephson, Henry Stapp, Erwin Schrödinger (debatable, but he was questioning physicalism).

I do not have to provide you with definitions so that your stupid ideas make sense.

Damn you’re a feisty one.

In fact you do have to provide definitions, an “observation” in the context of quantum mechanics does not have a consensus definition and the definition heavily relies on your particular interpretation of quantum mechanics. One of these interpretations also includes consciousness, and if you want to be completely certain this particular interpretation is false you need your own coherent definition of consciousness that doesn’t call upon quantum mechanics. You don’t have such a thing, nobody does.

You’re locked in a belief system and you don’t even realize it.

No, you dumb fuck,

Thanks comrade, very nice of you.

You have to define it

No, everybody has to define it actually since it clearly exists and nobody really knows what it is. If you believe with certainty it doesn’t have anything to do with quantum collapse then you also must have a good idea what it actually is, and you just plain don’t.

Personally I’m agnostic about the whole thing and I don’t think any particular idea needs to be dismissed a priori because of entrenched beliefs.

So, by your definition, mystical stuff is just things we can’t explain right now.

My entire fucking point is that nobody can explain it properly and you grasping so tightly onto only one of the possible explanations is you having a strong belief system, same as religious people, not you doing a heckin good science think.

Nothing I’ve seen seems to imply it’s outside of our models.

It literally is tho. There is no mention of consciousness anywhere in either quantum mechanics or general relativity.

So either you give a real answer to their question of what you think consciousness is or you start listing the things you think are conscious until smarter minds can work out what connects the dots.

You haven’t given a real answer either though and neither has anybody else in the history of science, which is what I’m trying to say, nobody has a coherent answer but you’re pretending as if you do. You’re literally just asserting your claims without backing anything up.

We can easily explain how a physical system produces consciousness.

We literally can’t do that at all though, not even close.

Because that’s literally a basic requirment of science.

How? Science is based on making models from empirical observations about the world and yourself, one of these empirical observations is the observation that your phenomenal consciousness actually exists, seemingly in opposition to the physical world, maybe we should perhaps include that fact in our models?

Also, you call it reductive. I don’t think it’s reductive.

It’s literally how that category of metaphysical thought is called, it’s an actual philosophical term.