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@dadarobot I have a voip service (US company: callcentric.com, I find them quite good, but I don’t know if they’re worth it without a US address).

The sip stuff is just in the background. It’s like your internet IP number. It’s provided by your ISP but you don’t (usually) ever have to deal with it. Same with sip. The numbers you deal with look like regular phone numbers.

There is some kind of argle-bargle regarding “regular” cell numbers. You can switch them to a voip service, but there’s some kind of aggro about switching a voip number to cell. Or something. You’re right about it all being horribly confusing. On purpose, I’m sure.

@dadarobot @Allero Is the gv number portable? I assume if you could you’d have moved it.

@Allero @boaratio Sounds like you’ve made an accidental discovery like penicillin, only this one works on social media 😆

@rimu Maybe more people are finally noticing their very intelligent tax proposal, the one where they point out it applies to over 10.5 million/year.

Couldn’t be. Way too reality-based.

@Allero @DieserTypMatthias Erm, three years ago I bought a Pixel 6a for USD150. Unless they’ve become collectors’ items, it’s presumably less than that now.

Though probably more the $50, I’d guess, so your point still stands.

@tophneal Interesting. I only saw screenshots of Sailfish. I loved the way it looked.

@Bullerfar @tophneal One thing you have to watch out for with linux phones (if it’s important to you) is:

Do they actually work as phones?

Sending and receiving texts, that sort of thing. Super basic stuff. I had a pinephone for a while and it had a bug where it wouldn’t wake from suspend for an incoming call or message. A bit inconvenient!

On the forums, the talk would be about how well you could use IRC or the like. That’s nice. But I’d use a laptop for that. For me at least, a phone needs to be a phone.

Currently using Graphene which really does work, but isn’t a linux phone in the sense you’re using it (I think?).

@A_norny_mousse That link doesn’t load in any of my browsers (chromium, vivaldi, waterfox).

Can you give a summary of what it says?

@smeg Oh man. Good luck. I hope somebody here has some idea what to do. (@sideofburritos has some excellent how-to videos. Might be worth a look.)

@Bronstein_Tardigrade .ml being Mali? Do any of the global mail order places deliver there? (Not suggesting you use them, just wondering. Amazon-australia, for instance, sometimes doesn’t deliver to New Zealand. 🙄 )

I’m pretty sure I’ve read recently about a Samsung model that works with linux (can’t find it now of course). Things move pretty quick so it may be different now, but a couple of years ago when I was looking, none of the linux phones worked reliably as _phones_. If you need calling and texting, that’s a problem!

@Bronstein_Tardigrade You probably know about GrapheneOS and have a reason not to use it? If not, it might be worth looking at. (Buying an out of date used Pixel phone, required for Graphene, isn’t expensive.)

@JoeBidet @urheber I’m one of the “tried Pinephone” people. Not nearly adept enough to do all the CLI work you did. I can edit config files if someone tells me what to type in 😆.

I use a laptop for the fun stuff. A phone to me is for texts and calls. I gave up on the Pinephone because of problems with that. Big one: not waking from sleep to ring. I get about 2 calls a month, but they’re the sort I can’t miss. After about the 3rd miss, I had to give up. Yes, I’d try again after updates 😖