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  • Tiger666@lemmy.catoMurdered by Words@feddit.uksocialism lesson
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    7 days ago

    Thats still all capitalism. There is no socialism in capitalism even when the wealthy make huge wealth transfers.

    Why is it so hard to understand that all socialism is is when workers control the means of production just like capitalists do in capitalism.

    If they control the means then it is capitalism, if we(the workers) control it then that’s socialism.

    Transferring wealth is just that, wealth transfer.

    Having the national purse pay for bailouts is not socialism.

    This idea of getting something for nothing is not socialism.


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    7 days ago

    They also dont want socialism. They want reform just like centrists.

    Not one DSA candidate has called for the means of production to be in the hands of the workers.

    Not one has said we should get rid of capitalists.

    Not one has said we should get rid of for profit banks and insurance.

    They do talk about single payer healthcare but that is just a social program and not socialism.

    Its all reform unless we(the workers)seize the means of production and I havent heard one peep about that from the DSA.

    So, no, the DSA aren’t socialists at all, they are at best reformists.



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    This is only socialism if it pertains to the workplace and you are talking about “one big union” not insurance; that would be a social program.

    Roads and infrastructure; not socialism.

    Insurance and consumer protection; not socialism.

    Single payer Healthcare; not socialism.

    Firefighter, police and military; not socialism.

    Democracy in the workplace; now thats what I call socialism.