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  • Yeah I think we’ve been having on off discussions about ATProto’s place in the Fediverse here for probably 2ish years in multiple threads.

    Looks like today the crowd has finally more sternly come to a decision lol. I think there were threads last year here around this ATProto with a lot better nuance and discussion, but Bluesky has been getting a lot of hate and misinformation thrown at it from this pocket of the internet lately, which is somewhat disappointing since they both the pocket should operate symbiotically.

    Possibly a sign of newer Lemmy users though which is good regardless.



  • We’re just arguing semantics just to argue at this point.

    I can say how the paragraph says the majority of Fediverse platforms operate on ActivityPub and how ATProto is not within that majority at the moment.

    Or I can say yes Diaspora is the only one that matches the original definition, but what is the definition now?

    But a much better conversation is why we’re trying to fracture our conversations around decentralized social media? The data is open and can be bridged. At that point are both protocols the Fediverse? Why are we digging ourselves into a whole here on the Activitypub side and refusing to discuss how we can further the Fediverse and decentralization?


  • I’m fully aware that might not be #1 goal at the end of the day, but we’re starting to see multiple social media networks start to exist with their own infrastructure on ATProto (https://sprk.so/ is in beta) and more importantly hosted outside the US.

    These separate networks can interact with the BlueSky network if they choose so and the BlueSky network can interact with theirs if they use their Lexicon. There are other lightweight apps being built on top of BlueSkys Lexicon and relay system as well that are whole separate apps.

    To say that’s not their goal is a little weird because it’s possible right now? Sure it might be difficult but they’ve merged quite a few changes to make the relay system much more accessible, and have put a lot of effort into the identity system recently.






  • The idea of the Fediverse is simply a group of social networks communicating through the same protocol, is that not what ATProto is attempting to accomplish?

    I’ve been a long time supporter that ATProto actually is apart of the Fediverse. The ultimate goal of this subreddit is a fully decentralized social media landscape. Fracturing discussion between ActivityPub and ATProto helps no one, especially in niche communities like this. The long-term goal is the same, and whether that progression happens on protocol A or platform B it’s progressive nonetheless and we should discuss it.



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    I feel like this is falling down the same trap though. Ex. Someone who’s picked strawberries for 5 years is going to be FAST.

    They are effectively a skilled laborer even though the job itself is “unskilled”. Yes anyone “can” do it but there are those who have effectively been doing it for years who are great at it and are skilled at it.