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  • There’s a quote from Eric S. Raymond about the issue of getting people to switch to something better (in this case the OS Plan 9) if there’s already something that’s fulfilling the need just enough that it becomes difficult to get anyone to move.

    it looks like Plan 9 failed simply because it fell short of being a compelling enough improvement on Unix to displace its ancestor. Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good enough.

    The fear now is that people will just switch to Bluesky until it becomes like Twitter, and it’s not a guarantee that Mastodon will be next in line. It could be another closed service that’s primed to take its place, and thus, the cycle continues.



  • Hmm… That could be an issue, you’re right.

    If it does get that bad, we’d gave to act more defensively by only federating with instances that have reviewed sign-ups and have received an endorsement on fediseer.

    That would result in a more isolated experience, but if that’s the only way to combat it, then we’ll have to shift with the needs of the moment to keep it mostly humans we’re interacting with, and to make the moderation workload manageable.


  • The Fediseer project from @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com helps prevent bot farms from proliferating, as new servers require an endorsement from an already trusted instance to become ‘legit’. And they can be marked as untrustworthy as well, causing them to be defederated fairly quickly, limiting its reach.

    We also have a MUCH higher moderator to user ratio compared to corpo sites, with a range between 100 to 2,500 users per mod depending on instance, Vs. 250,000 users per mod on sites like twitter, so we can more adequately spot and deal with spam on the network.


  • Absolutely incredible breakdown of the problem. In addition to twitter, I strongly suspect Reddit is infested with a similar increase in bot accounts, which would explain how a sub I used to moderate there has some of the highest page visits its ever had, yet its actual user engagement hasn’t changed at all, or even gone down.

    Corporate websites, who have a financial incentive to allow the bots, have become completely unusable. The difference in interaction on Lemmy is incredibly stark, which goes to show that the fediverse seems to be far more resilient against bots since we can defederate from an instance that gets taken over, like cutting off an infected limb to stop the spread.


  • While I agree with her message regarding embracing joy and looking toward building things up and following a vision (I’m a solarpunk after all), I have some reservations with some of her other points, which ring a little too closely with new-age spiritualism for me, such as when she mentions that capitalist pharma discredited herbal medicines and alternative indigenous healing methods in order to push profit. Which, while true in some cases, shouldn’t dismiss how the scientific method has also shown how many traditional alternative medicines and practices can be nothing more than a placebo or even outright harmful.

    Yes, modern medicine is a soulless and equally harmful profit machine, but the scientific method is simply a tool that can be used for either collective good or for harmful profit. It is not an evil in itself, but the system around it which incentivizes that evil.