Common bad faith argument from anti-AI Trolls claiming everyone who doesn’t agree with them is using an LLM to write their comments or just is an LLM.

I don’t think it’s anywhere near as common as you’re trying to say it is, this is a common anti-AI rhetoric and it either comes from baseless fearmongering or people who do it themselves and believe everyone else does. I’ve been baselessly accused of viewing and making AI CSAM and even accused of having an “AI shotacon avatar” by anti-AI dipshits trying to bully me off the platform. Which already makes me question the frequency of how much this actually happens for real.

The arguments against preemptive bans feel petty and are coming from a place of someone who hasn’t moderated. You’re basically saying that as a mod if I see someone being a troll, or brigading, or saying (threatening) they’re going to that I should just sit by and wait for them to do so. Especially when a large proportion of these trolls are willing to go above and beyond to be hurtful and spiteful.

This is what we’re dealing with here:

Yeah, those dipshits outright impersonated and bullied me saying weird and gross crap like this.

So no I’m not going to sit by and watch people from the sidelines until they target me and my community and no one else should either. People want to be shitheads they should expect to find themselves banned from places they never heard of for being shitheads. Don’t like it? Stop being a shithead. And yes that does include obvious forms of brigading like going to someone’s profile and downvoting every comment they posted, or downvoting every post in a community, or downvoting all the comments under a post.

Dude what the actual fuck???

Systematically going through a whole community in attempt to suppress them absolutely is manipulative and you absolutely can be banned for it. If this wasn’t the case and it was believed people are entitled to vote not matter what why do bans stop the ability to vote in communities in the first place.

If you think there is dangerous medical misinformation you should report it or message the admins. Downvoting everything just looks like Vote manipulation to regular people because it is, and those mods are going to ban people for it either way. It also doesn’t help make admins aware of it, so for policy violations doing that instead of reporting or messaging admins is as useless as doing nothing at all.

Here’s what I got, I just used the AI horde bot (I don’t have ChatGPT).

Prompt: Mystic Mushroom

Style: flux

What about the rule change we voted on a while ago maybe even if it’s not AI specific that should be included there.

Sorry, my bad. I thought it seemed fishy that they had no content posted whatsoever.

It has, but the rules section doesn’t clarify brigading Anti-AI or otherwise as one of the big no-no topics. We did vote on a change to the rules but it seems it wasn’t implemented yet. Maybe @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com or @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com just hasn’t gotten around to it yet but it would help in terms of it being known that we mean business.

This instance currently allows new community creation, however the following subjects are explicitly not allowed as communities.

• Nothing positive or promoting cryptocurrency, blockchain or NFTs
• Nothing extreme-right-wing. This includes conspiracy theories, SovCit, Pro-Police, AnCaps etc. We’ll know it when I see it, don’t test us!
• No anti-science topics.
• No Tankie shit.
• No TERFs.
• No Porn.

Preferably you’ll stay within the topics endorsed by this instance (see first line)

I think that the AI friendly nature of our instance needs to be clearly written in our instance sidebar (@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com and @Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com can help with that) which would help out since the instance sidebar is visible in all dbzer0 communities which are remote. It should probably also be included in the application prompt as a disclaimer, since I’m seeing a lot of dbzer0 people who signed up and are complaining about AI (guys what the fuck are you doing here on an AI instance if you hate AI).

Also moderation, moderation is the only real way to deal with the Anti-AI brigading and trolling. Preventative moderation can also be used as well if things get bad enough and/or don’t improve.

I think this is a nice gesture but I also think it’s way too charitable for the Anti-GenAI people currently complaining. Their issue isn’t that they want to avoid it, they want to stamp it out, they want it gone. They’re not going to hide posts or keywords, they’re going to brigade them. They already brigade and harass explicitly GenAI communities and don’t block them. They’ve harassed me multiple times, told me to die in DMs and even impersonated me for running such communities. Tagging isn’t going to help, they’re just going to use it to hunt down people who post it and brigade the posts or target the users, because they aren’t angry that they are seeing it, they’re angry that it exists and they wish to stamp it out, no matter the cost.

In short this is a good solution with good intentions but it assumes a level of good faith that just isn’t there. I’d agree with this if the problem was really people just not wanting to see it, but the problem is much deeper. I’m sure that once people start doing it, the goal posts will be moved and they’ll just stop using “untagged” as a reason for complaining.

@SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world I wonder what the distain towards my comment is. Do you disagree with the assessment that NonBinary is trans or are you just downvoting everything I post in communities you aren’t banned from?

First one is transphobic, second one is harassment. Both are bannable offenses here.

https://lemvotes.org/comment/lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19334280

You’re welcome :)

YDI, going into a community to downvote everything is toxic behavior and mods have every right to ban you for it. And they probably should, it’s obviously not a good fit for you.

Nope, they sat by and watched as Germany sunk into fascism and began their ethic cleansing and putting people in cattle cars to take to camps, if Germany had never invaded Poland they would’ve continued to sit by and do fuck all.

I’m looking at it and not seeing any grip tape…

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You can absolutely block communities when you are banned from them, this is one of the most sad and pathetic excuses to be unbanned I’ve ever heard, request denied.