Realistically... How fucked is the US? - eviltoast

(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Just because you say the sky is yellow, doesn’t mean you’re better for it.

    If you shrink the government, corporations will just fill the power vacuum. It’s that simple.

    • C126@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      Open your eyes. Corporations already heavily influence policy. Stop making that possible by decentralizing the power!

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        15 days ago

        We’ve already had four years of Trump to know that’s not what will happen. The only power he’ll relinquish is power over corporations. Individuals will not be getting more rights, unless it’s to hurt other individuals.

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          15 days ago

          I don’t disagree, I just hope people of different views can come together and see that decentralizing the power structure might be worth considering if you don’t like the amount of power we handed one man. That means cutting the federal government and moving those programs to local government, private charities, or the bin.

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            15 days ago

            Economics of scale already proves that to be a fantasy.

            Also, private charities and local governments can’t do anything about multi national corporations creating pollution or price fixing.

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              15 days ago

              Pollution is a property rights issue, don’t need anything beyond private property rights and a court system to cover that. Price fixing is caused by government created barriers to entry, artificially restricting competition. In other words, price fixing is a problem caused by government overreach, so obviously government isn’t the solution.

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                  14 days ago

                  Air pollution is about protecting an individuals property, not the air itself: lungs, orchards, fields, etc. Air is simply how the property damage was delivered. So, no one owns the air, but property damage dealt through the air should be pursued in court, like any other property damage.

                  And let’s not kid ourselves that the government has real incentive to reduce pollution. Overnight, someone like Trump gets put in charge and happily encourages the poisoning of the environment and individuals can’t sue in court, because the government said it was ok to pollute.