Realistically... How fucked is the US? - eviltoast

(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

  • NielsBohron@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That’s all well and good, but are you really suggesting that trans people who are fearing for their lives should stay put to help the electoral college issues four years from now?

    • Pika@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      that’s a sticky question, there’s no perfect answer sadly.

      the solution of moving to a blue state is a good short term fix. However it won’t survive a long-term exposure. Eventually the federal level laws will outlaw the state level laws regarding it and their protections in the blue state won’t help them anymore. When that happens the only outcome is all red laws. We are already seeing that with him claiming that he’s going to outlaw abortion period on the federal level, which will overrule state level, an act that currently I believe would make it through the proper channels to actually get implemented as the red party currently holds half (if not all) the legislative, the entire executive, and despite it not being supposed to be possible, the judicial branches.

      In a perfect world, due to everyone dispersing into the red districts, it would saturate the polls in those districts, requiring district remaps via gerrymandering to win. Unless there truly is more red voters then blue, in which case there is no solution to this problem while remaining in the US, the only valid option is either a second civil war, or moving to another country and hoping that it doesn’t spread. Neither options are ideal.

      • lemonmelon@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        that’s a sticky question,

        No, the banshee-wailing fuck it isn’t!

        If someone truly believes they are in fucking danger, they need to remove themselves from the danger first and foremost, before any consideration of “but what about next election?”

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Are you for real trying to ivory tower armchair general a person who now fears for their life due to the overt threats of the candidate who just won the fucking presidency? Hold on- let me get you a ladder so you can try to climb down out of your own asshole.

        • Pika@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          no, I’m not sure where everyone is getting that ideology. Obviously if there is physical threat move. I’m just saying that moving to a blue state isn’t a permanent solution and it’s just going to fuck them twice over later when the barely red states become fully red states and electoral college allows for a constant 270 for a side that is very very against the concept of it.

          Blue states aren’t even that much better either. I know from first hand experience that Maine, a state that hasent gone red since 1988, still very much has population that is hostile to the same lifestyles, It’s not as bad obviously but, it’s not like the problem disappears by moving. I just personally think deciding to leave the state is cementing the issue to being a permanent one.

          Personally, if moving is a must, instead of going to a blue state you are likely better off leaving the country. At least then your impact will be mitigated when the full red federal laws go into effect.