😮💨 point to the biden policy that would please. Then point to the harris campaign platform stating how she’d fix it. In fact harris took steps to signal she wouldn’t fix it by not committing to Khan.
Neither candidate was going to fix it. So whats next in the list?
And even if neither of them would fix it - how is that a reason to vote Trump?
Edit:
That’s been the logic problem through this entire election.
Yes, Kamala dodged right when many of us wanted her to dodge left. I get that, and it frustrates me as well.
But on ANY issue where they were equally bad policy-wise, how does one look back and forth between Trump and Harris and go “Well, clearly Trump”
Folks act like for any tossup issue between them the obvious advantage is with the racist, convicted felon, rapist, demented, shitbag. Somehow Trump just has to be on the same level as Harris to get the nod, but Harris only does if she miles and miles better on an issue. I just don’t get it.
Under Trump in 2019 inflation was 2.3 percent. It dropped during Covid and then jumped to 7% in 2021. It has been declining ever since to 2.4% today. So a disaster, then a recovery, and people STILL think it was Bidens fault.
Price gouging is what it became and that is slowly getting better. The FTC is taking steps to help. But somehow people think “lets vote for the billionaires! Surely they have a plan to make chips 99 cents again!”. We only need to deregulate and cut corporate taxes (again) and it will all be better for Johnny Six Pack!
shrug are people blaming biden for inflation? or for his lack of action against price gouging? those are two very different reasons with similar outcomes for biden and harris.
Yes. They blamed him for inflation. That is the buzzword.
Biden ordered the FTC and the DOJ to work together and fight shrinkflation, price gouging, and deceptive practices. In March!
He also went after credit card fees and deceptive and predatory loans. He said he took this on when the economy was recovering and inflation was going down.
So what are you talking about?
The FTC has been very active, deceptive practices, fraud, schemes, price gouging, data leaks, personal data protections… so many things.
yup I’m aware. harris also refused to commit to keeping khan. So americans assuming they’re aware of these facts have two signals, one from the biden admin and the other from harris herself. personally I’m going to infer from the one harris sent herself.
But remember most americans dont care and dont pay attention to presidential orders unless they’re effective; and the price of milk, eggs, and cereal are still 50%, if not more, higher than they should be. so how effective was biden? Why are my kellog flakes $7 dollars when the store brand is $3? its clearly not a supply chain/manufacturing issue the products are identical. this is rhetorical for you to think about what youre saying.
The question was if they blamed Biden. Nothing to do with Harris, but since you mention it, yeah that is really troubling for Harris supporters.
I agree Americans dont pay much attention. They also are bizarrely confused about who to blame. The president doesn’t set prices, companies do. There was a period of inflation put into place from Trumps tax policy in 2017 expiring to recovery acts during Covid. Prices went up. Why would a business lower them now? They are no longer going up at 7%, but the prices were coming back down.
So “Why are my kellog flakes $7 dollars when the store brand is $3”? Because people will pay for it?
So “Why are my kellog flakes $7 dollars when the store brand is $3”? Because people will pay for it?
and thats why biden’s admin is at historically low approval. like you he was unwilling to take the steps he needed to take to stop the gouging. its why he was ousted and harris lost.
not because of their policies that were ineffective. but because they wouldn’t fight. they wouldn’t fight for workers, they wouldn’t fight for arabs.
Except he did do something. Like we discussed previously. But nobody cares. If he had done price fixing they would have complained about that. But nobody wants to talk about how Trump put this all into motion in 2017 by signing the the tax bill.
And exactly what SHOULD be done if a company wants to charge $7 for their cereal? Perhaps if you didn’t want it to be $7 you wouldn’t buy it. But here we are, blame someone else for their lack of self control. Harris would have given money to a small business that wanted to make quality cereal at an affordable price to get it off the ground. But they wouldn’t go for that either.
Their is no solution to stupid. That is why she lost.
In the end the prices of food today are NOTHING compared to what they will be. We have droughts in all states but 2 right now. Tarrifs are going to limit imports so we are going to rely on local farms that are going to start really seeing the effects of climate change, that are only going to be made worse by poor environmental policy and increased carbon emissions. The stupid have spoken. They want to be told things will be fixed: when the only thing that will be fixed is an acceleration of money up. Like always. Kamala may not have fixed that, but at least she wasn’t going to put it on the fast track.
there was a solution. biden just wasnt willing to do it and neither are you. you’re not even willing to discuss breaking up monopolies, applying huge windfall taxes on over priced goods, mobilizing the government agencies in creative ways to address the problem. and kellogs is a monopoly.
now please get back on track. this conversation bores me. I certainly stopped buying the $7 dollar cereal age ago. I was simply demonstrating the price gouging still going on. Your lack of creativity in addressing bad actors isn’t my problem nor does it resolve the issue with democratic party being an absolute dumpster fire when it comes to campaigning.
Your like an abused significant other clinging to your partner. ‘they arent always this way!’ sometimes you just need to let them go. which is essentially what happened to the democrats this election.
😮💨 point to the biden policy that would please. Then point to the harris campaign platform stating how she’d fix it. In fact harris took steps to signal she wouldn’t fix it by not committing to Khan.
Neither candidate was going to fix it. So whats next in the list?
They were doing more than Trump will.
https://qz.com/ftc-probe-grocery-price-surge-consumers-inflation-1851611874
And even if neither of them would fix it - how is that a reason to vote Trump?
Edit:
That’s been the logic problem through this entire election.
Yes, Kamala dodged right when many of us wanted her to dodge left. I get that, and it frustrates me as well.
But on ANY issue where they were equally bad policy-wise, how does one look back and forth between Trump and Harris and go “Well, clearly Trump”
Folks act like for any tossup issue between them the obvious advantage is with the racist, convicted felon, rapist, demented, shitbag. Somehow Trump just has to be on the same level as Harris to get the nod, but Harris only does if she miles and miles better on an issue. I just don’t get it.
And she lost the lack of self reflection that has inspired in you is why this will keep happening.
Under Trump in 2019 inflation was 2.3 percent. It dropped during Covid and then jumped to 7% in 2021. It has been declining ever since to 2.4% today. So a disaster, then a recovery, and people STILL think it was Bidens fault.
Price gouging is what it became and that is slowly getting better. The FTC is taking steps to help. But somehow people think “lets vote for the billionaires! Surely they have a plan to make chips 99 cents again!”. We only need to deregulate and cut corporate taxes (again) and it will all be better for Johnny Six Pack!
shrug are people blaming biden for inflation? or for his lack of action against price gouging? those are two very different reasons with similar outcomes for biden and harris.
Yes. They blamed him for inflation. That is the buzzword.
Biden ordered the FTC and the DOJ to work together and fight shrinkflation, price gouging, and deceptive practices. In March!
He also went after credit card fees and deceptive and predatory loans. He said he took this on when the economy was recovering and inflation was going down.
So what are you talking about?
The FTC has been very active, deceptive practices, fraud, schemes, price gouging, data leaks, personal data protections… so many things.
I suppose that is all going to end now.
yup I’m aware. harris also refused to commit to keeping khan. So americans assuming they’re aware of these facts have two signals, one from the biden admin and the other from harris herself. personally I’m going to infer from the one harris sent herself.
But remember most americans dont care and dont pay attention to presidential orders unless they’re effective; and the price of milk, eggs, and cereal are still 50%, if not more, higher than they should be. so how effective was biden? Why are my kellog flakes $7 dollars when the store brand is $3? its clearly not a supply chain/manufacturing issue the products are identical. this is rhetorical for you to think about what youre saying.
The question was if they blamed Biden. Nothing to do with Harris, but since you mention it, yeah that is really troubling for Harris supporters.
I agree Americans dont pay much attention. They also are bizarrely confused about who to blame. The president doesn’t set prices, companies do. There was a period of inflation put into place from Trumps tax policy in 2017 expiring to recovery acts during Covid. Prices went up. Why would a business lower them now? They are no longer going up at 7%, but the prices were coming back down.
So “Why are my kellog flakes $7 dollars when the store brand is $3”? Because people will pay for it?
and thats why biden’s admin is at historically low approval. like you he was unwilling to take the steps he needed to take to stop the gouging. its why he was ousted and harris lost.
not because of their policies that were ineffective. but because they wouldn’t fight. they wouldn’t fight for workers, they wouldn’t fight for arabs.
Except he did do something. Like we discussed previously. But nobody cares. If he had done price fixing they would have complained about that. But nobody wants to talk about how Trump put this all into motion in 2017 by signing the the tax bill.
And exactly what SHOULD be done if a company wants to charge $7 for their cereal? Perhaps if you didn’t want it to be $7 you wouldn’t buy it. But here we are, blame someone else for their lack of self control. Harris would have given money to a small business that wanted to make quality cereal at an affordable price to get it off the ground. But they wouldn’t go for that either.
Their is no solution to stupid. That is why she lost.
In the end the prices of food today are NOTHING compared to what they will be. We have droughts in all states but 2 right now. Tarrifs are going to limit imports so we are going to rely on local farms that are going to start really seeing the effects of climate change, that are only going to be made worse by poor environmental policy and increased carbon emissions. The stupid have spoken. They want to be told things will be fixed: when the only thing that will be fixed is an acceleration of money up. Like always. Kamala may not have fixed that, but at least she wasn’t going to put it on the fast track.
there was a solution. biden just wasnt willing to do it and neither are you. you’re not even willing to discuss breaking up monopolies, applying huge windfall taxes on over priced goods, mobilizing the government agencies in creative ways to address the problem. and kellogs is a monopoly.
now please get back on track. this conversation bores me. I certainly stopped buying the $7 dollar cereal age ago. I was simply demonstrating the price gouging still going on. Your lack of creativity in addressing bad actors isn’t my problem nor does it resolve the issue with democratic party being an absolute dumpster fire when it comes to campaigning.
Your like an abused significant other clinging to your partner. ‘they arent always this way!’ sometimes you just need to let them go. which is essentially what happened to the democrats this election.