What would you say to a Ukrainian? - eviltoast

There’s this cultural exchange program going on at my university where I’m supposed to do a zoom call with people living in Kiev, Ukraine. The war will be mentioned as part of the meeting. Should I bs them or should I tell them that I don’t support their Nazi military and government?

Edit: I know someone from Donetsk who’s now fighting for the Donetsk People’s Republic. Should I mention him?

  • DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml
    24·
    1 year ago

    My vote is to be a good human being and try to sympathise with the horrible shit that person is going through. It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong, it’s just as horrible all the same

  • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
    14·
    1 year ago

    Zoom calls can be recorded and zoom itself may keep a record. Don’t give any more personal details than the minimum. You don’t know who might end up with a recording.

    I’d focus on asking them questions. I would not ask leading or political questions, etc, or start talking about someone in the enemy military. The latter is insensitive, to say the least; the person you’re talking to might have lost their brother or cousin to that person in the enemy military.

    I can’t imagine that you will be assumed to be anything but in full support of Ukraine. So I don’t know how the opportunity to bs them(?) would come up unless you mention it. If you say that you don’t support Ukraine, and make things ‘awkward’ for the cultural exchange students, I imagine there will be a disciplinary action of some sort: if you’re part of this, you’re representing your university.

    Personally, I would have no difficulty in asking them about their lives or expressing my sympathy and wish for Ukrainians to stop dying in a war they didn’t ask for. That wouldn’t be bs.

  • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
    162·
    1 year ago

    This is 100% a psyop to push pro-Ukrainian war propaganda on western students, i wouldn’t even attend the zoom meeting if it isn’t strictly obligatory, and if you are forced to do so for your grade then i would just say nothing at all because it is a trap.

    Sorry if this comes across harsh but at this point in Ukraine these sorts of programs simply do not happen without the approval and supervision of the state’s propaganda management agencies who ensure that the right narrative is maintained at all times.

    You gain nothing from engaging in any way with this nonsense, and you risk exposing yourself to doxing and even physical harm if you push back against these people, no matter whether they are brainwashed fanatics or just intimidated into parroting the state line.

  • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
    121·
    1 year ago

    This is bait, right? Why would you mention the war if they don’t mention it? Why would you put your university degree at risk to dunk on some randos who don’t even necessarily oppose you?

  • SILLY BEAN@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    52·
    1 year ago

    I’ll be honest i don’t care which side someone supports. I don’t need too. The chance that i will ever know enough about the situation to determine which side is better is rather close to zero. And it just doesn’t matter. The far more important things is what caused the war, and how to prevent them in the future. This war was caused by capitalism, there is no way around it. And if we ever want long term peace and prosperity for everyone we need to end it. Anti capitalism is more important than pointless factionalism over which capitalist country is slightly better than the others.