What's something about the fediverse you know but most people seem not to? - eviltoast

I only just learned today that, when someone from one instance gets banned from another instance, that person not only is no longer able to interact with the second instance, but people from the second instance actually can’t see anything the person said from the moment they got banned even though they’re still there. I’m disappointed to learn all my friends who got banned from my instance are still saying stuff and nobody told me, making it more akin to an instance forcing everyone to block them (because individuals blocking each other the same way work like this). And this is coming from the person who has fantasized about universalization of federation.

What’s something about the fediverse that was most recently unobscured but that you know now?

  • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Upvotes and downvotes are not private. You may have to jump through a few hoops to see the information, but user IDs are attached to every upvote and downvote sent across the platform.

  • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    In most lemmy instances, the default feed is a mix of that instance’s and popular threads from other instances. Participating in such a thread that you find spontaneously is therefore not anything resembling “brigading,” even if other people on your instance also see it spontaneously and participate.

    • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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      Same stuff happened on Reddit. Threads would get popular and hit r/all, people would say they were being brigaded.

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        I was banned from a community on Reddit for brigading once, but I had found the thread on my own and participated.

        I don’t know if they actually thought I was brigading or if they just didn’t agree with me. Probably both.

  • tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    I think i heard somewhere that a request to delete content of yours is passed from instance to instance. It can be ignored too by specific instances I believe.

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      5 days ago

      Something to consider is that any given instance can be a bad actor and do whatever the hell they want.

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      5 days ago

      Possibly this was me yesterday.

      While such requests could be intentionally ignored, I’m not of aware of a case where any actually have been. I can’t see why anyone would, and going rogue like that is liable to get your instance defederated.

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          4 days ago

          Why would it need to be monitored? I can’t think of a reason that an instance would not want to honor them, and if they were to, someone would eventually notice and complain. I don’t see a value in monitoring/policing it.

          • ElTacoEsMiPastor@lemmy.ml
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            3 days ago

            Perhaps «monitoring» was too strong of a word…

            someone would eventually notice and complain.

            I’ll rephrase: if a layperson wanted to check if an instance is not following through, how could they confirm it?

            • Davel@lemmy.ml
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              If a comment were removed from instance A, you could go look at the same post on instance B and see whether the comment is also removed there. You don’t need a user account on either instance to do this.

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                3 days ago

                Would be neat to have a site take in a Url for a post/comment and display a list of top instances or something stating whether it’s visible there or not.

  • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work
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    5 days ago

    I don’t have anything especially helpful to share, but maybe it’s not so widely known that anyone can run their own ActivityPub instance and avoid some of the collateral damage caused by other admins.

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    4 days ago

    This is a very Lemmy-specific observation that isn’t strictly true of other ActivityPub federated services.

    You should also get off of ML if you don’t like being affected by terrible admin decisions.