Wales lowers speed limit to 20 mph to cut car use and save lives - eviltoast
The Welsh parliament has passed a law bringing down the speed limit on all residential roads and busy streets to 20 mph (30 km/h). Not everyone is pleased.
    • SCB@lemmy.world
      111·
      1 year ago

      That’s… how speeding tickets work, yes.

      Thus, it is a tax on commuters, who tend to be people who can’t work from home, and also tend to be poorer, making it regressive… Which is why Tories came up with it.

      • theplanlessman@feddit.ukEnglish
        131·
        1 year ago
        1. This change came from the Welsh Labour government, it is not a tory policy (though they apparently initially supported it)
        2. Again, it’s an entirely avoidable cost by simply obeying the law. If you’re poor and can’t afford to pay speeding fines, don’t speed.
      • theplanlessman@feddit.ukEnglish
        121·
        1 year ago

        My point being that they won’t generate any revenue if people actually follow the rules of the road. Revenue only when people break the law is not how taxes work.

        • SCB@lemmy.world
          29·
          1 year ago

          Might wanna dig into what classes of people pay the overwhelming amount of traffic citations to see why certain groups prefer this method of revenue-raising over just normal taxation.

          • fireweed@lemmy.world
            92·
            1 year ago

            Might wanna dig into what forms of transportation the very poor use! Hint: it’s not driving.

            Traffic safety laws protect the most vulnerable members of society: the very poor, very young, very old, and very disabled (all populations that can’t drive and are more likely to become trapped in their own homes when streets are unsafe for those outside motor vehicles).

      • oo1@kbin.social
        51·
        1 year ago

        so it could be describes a tax on commuters who choose to drive over the speed limit - fuck them hower poor they are. poor people are capable of committing crimes just like non-poor.

        poor people can also drive slower, or take the bus, train, (and many can ) bike, walk . . .
        personally i find bike/bus/train way cheaper than car.

        recycle the revenue into bus service and its probably neither progressive or regressive,but sways people out of cars, and reduces the danger to people not in cars.(however poor they are)