Fears of peace talks with Putin rise amid US squabbling - eviltoast
  • cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    From what you wrote, do you have a major issue with, in your view, how little violence Russia has inflicted on civilians? Glad that you’re disappointed.

    My point stands. All that blabber does not justify the acts of Russia.

    • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      Lol fuck you No I’m pleasantly surprised at how little violence against civilians has happened in Ukraine. They never for a moment did the all out war that the US has waged on so many countries. None of that justifies the acts of Russia, but it does mean that your view is so terribly skewed by your western propaganda that I can’t imagine you being right about anything else lol

      But also, you can look into my comment history if you want, for some good explanations on my position on Putin and Russia in this war. I have principles and material analyses. You have vibes

      https://hexbear.net/comment/3746587 An example of a very simple version of why I critically support russia

    • PandaBearGreen [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      No one is justifying the acts of Russia. They should not have invaded! But to act like there is no pretext to conflict and Ukraine is completely innocent is disingenuous. Peace is the better option.

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        All it takes for peace to happen is Russian soldiers turning around and going home.

        Also plenty of your fellow hexbear users are justifying the acts of Russia in the comments up above (and down below).

      • cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I agree with you that peace is a better option, although I’m pessimistic about the outcome of such talks at this point.

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        Would you like to live in putin’s russia until you die? Because that is what happened to the people in the occupied regions, wheter they like it or not.

        (And please don’t mention the referendum. Between killed, coerced, exiles and fraud it’s a pornographic notion to think you can have a referendum in those conditions.)

        The Ukrainian choice here is not peace vs war, that’s russia’s choice.

        Ukrainians’ choice here is whether to accept to live in putin’s russia by force or to resist his troops’ advances by force and a lot of people in your instance believe that it is up to Ukraine to solve the problem that russia created by accepting putin’s laws (which I guess nobody in your instance would accept, since you are anti-homophobia etc etc)