One reason to oppose Ukraine's proxy war against Russia - eviltoast

This is the official account of the Ukrainian military celebrating Roman Shukhevych, the commander of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army! He personally nailed Polish babies to trees by their tongues. He was a member of the Schutzmannschaft Battalion 201; they raped and murdered men, women, and children in Belarus, burning down villages with everyone inside.

Literal support for the Nazis.

Post 2014 coup/revolution, Ukraine has become an ethnostate imposing apartheid rules on ethnic Russians. They (with full US backing) are the ones who provoked this war.

  • WatDabney@sopuli.xyz
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    13 days ago

    Do Russians (and western Putin supporters for that matter) have an unusually high rate of domestic violence?

    It strikes me that this whole spin that Ukraine “provoked” Russia’s invasion is basically identical to the stereotypical wife beater’s claim that she “provoked” his violence.

    And I wouldn’t be surprised if people who tend to believe the one tend to believe the other too.

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      13 days ago

      2014 US manufactured coup, was a Ukrainian turning point, that pivoted its solid alliance with USSR/Russia towards its nazi rebelious faction that was given power by US. Link proves those nazi roots are strong still today. Anyone awake should know that US wants this war. There cannot simultaneously be a “vital strategic interest for war to continue” and no provocation for it occurring. Nazis volunteering Ukrainians to die to diminish Russia is too good of an opportunity to risk nuclear war, and western media disinformation seems to make everyone love this.

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        12 days ago

        Even if all that were true1, it still doesn’t justify Russia’s invasion. Russia doesn’t own Russian speaking Ukrainians. Russia has neither the duty nor right to invade to “protect” Russian speaking minorities in any country.

        1 It isn’t

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          12 days ago

          Russia doesn’t own Russian speaking Ukrainians. Russia has neither the duty nor right to invade to “protect” Russian speaking minorities in any country.

          NATO decided in 90s that ethnic Albanians were being abused with less overt evidence, and intervened on humanitarian basis. Russia got west to admit to Ukraine nazi problem in Minsk accords. Zelensky campaign platform was based on peace/autonomy in Donbas according to Minsk accords, and on denazifying/stopping the paramilitaries. Russia made every effort for peace. Peace was never an option for US.

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            12 days ago

            lol, I love this silly account. It’s just nonsense and really into this denazifying angle! It’s almost adorable to watch the Internet Research Agency at work. Do they not even let the workers there read real news? Seems like shooting yourselves in the foot. Unless you’re like the obvious decoy so that better versions can run around without spouting nonsense accusations of nazism at Ukraine’s Jewish president.

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              12 days ago

              Zelensky, to his credit, needs to not be JFK’d by the nazi ruling contingent. He is a pleasant front for US nazi support. Nazi ideology/hatred in Ukraine is focused on USSR descendent ethnic Russians. Republicans are defending Trump’s praise of Hitler and his desire for those types of generals as “He has jewish friends, is Netanyahu’s favorite, and has a jewish daughter”.

              In addition to Ukraine official account praising this specific nazi monster, Ukraine’s nazi rulers made a national holiday after Stephen Bandera in 2019. Zelensky doesn’t deny Ukraine’s nazi problem. “It is what it is” is his response.

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                12 days ago

                I suppose you’d fall out of a window for expressing another view but damn, it’s like a whole make believe world of nonsense.