PSA: Google Meet no longer works in hardened Firefox - eviltoast

EDIT

This issue may be due to WebRTC being disabled. WebRTC is required for google meet, but also used for fingerprinting.

Recently I tried to join a google meet meeting in my hardened config firefox browser, and google meet didn’t let me in at all. I was confused as hell. I could join only on my phone, but not any of my three computers I tested it on. I then went into a virtual machine with regular firefox(also linux), and the meeting works. The only conclusion I can draw is that google is so desperate for my data that they refuse to service me unless I give them this.

This post intends to inform people that issues with google products may be related to their valid wish for security, and the actions they have taken in pursuit of that. The post also intends to inform people of a solution. The two apps that I recommend are:

  • Jitsi Meet: This is self hosted, but you can also make a meeting with jitsi’s own servers. A excellent alternative to google meet, the only reason I didn’t use it is that I had issues the day I needed to meet, and had to fall back to google meet instead.
  • Jami: This is a distributed-network chat and video calling app which is open source and a GNU package. It does require an app, but is free and open source and will serve your purpose.****_________
  • moe90@feddit.nlEnglish
    103·
    2 months ago

    if your client or your employer mandates the use of Google Meets as a meeting app. you have to comply.

    • Alex@lemmy.ml
      6·
      2 months ago

      I do pretty much everything in Firefox but during the week I keep a Chrome window up for Hangouts and Jira.

    • toastal@lemmy.ml
      52·
      2 months ago

      Might be true, but is some real bullshit. There are protocols/programs that do work on multiple platform (including not web) with privacy settings turned up. Employers should consider if they want Google listening in on all of their business discussions before forcing its buggy platform on employees. I’ll wait for the one that cries that it has Google Calendar integration, when you don’t need Google for a calendar.

      While you are setting up that server for Jitsi, realize its XMPP server can cover your text chat & presence needs too.

      • moe90@feddit.nlEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Sadly MS Teams, Google Meets/Hangouts, Zoom and webex are the defacto standard for video conferencing app in many companies atm and I never heard companies use Jitsi

        • toastal@lemmy.ml
          1·
          2 months ago

          Everyone I met has heard of Jitsi—guess I should feel blessed about my circle. But that doesn’t mean we should not let these places know there are opportunities to keep that voice data on-premise (which also indirectly helps the privacy of employees). I have chosen jobs for things like this though.