TIL: Being intellectually gifted is a spectrum of neurodivergence and does not automatically mean the person is/will be a genius in anything - eviltoast

Other points:

  • it’s not mutually exclusive with any other neurodivergence, in which case they’re “twice exceptional”;
  • In an environment with unprepared people and professionals, they may be wrongly diagnosed as having some other neurodivergence.
  • It’s not just a high IQ score;
  • Gifted kids can be problem students and have low grades;
  • Homework feels like torture (this is true to any child, tho);
  • They’re very likely to question authorities and point out perceived hypocrisy (emphasis here on perceived, because pointing something and being right are different things);
  • As kids, they may have weird quirks for executing tasks, such as wanting to hold pencils the “wrong” way, or wanting to press against a wall to do homework;

If you’re Brazilian or can understand Brazilian Portuguese, this is the podcast I listened to - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apnuIIePeeA

Aos brasileiros que acabarem encontrando esse post, o podcast que assisti é o que linkei acima

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    22·
    2 months ago

    Look, I don’t want to nitpick much, or make you feel like I’m bashing you, that’s not my intent.

    The post, however, is pretty far off of reality. “Gifted” is not the same kind of thing as other neurodivergence. It simply doesn’t have a well defined criteria. The only criteria that’s used in a majority of places that use the term is IQ or other testing scores.

    Should it have the same kind of diagnostic criteria as other aspects of neurofunction? Maybe. Maybe not. There’s just not enough information on it all to tell if it really is a form of neurodivergence, or just part of neurotypical function with higher “intelligence”. I don’t speak Portuguese, so I can’t tell if that video is accurate in its information or not, but I can tell that “Gifted” as a term is not what you’ve presented in your post, not as of five years ago when my kid got placed into gifted classes and I went back looking into it and comparing it to what it was when I was a kid.

    If there’s newer definitions and criteria, it would be nice if you put them into post instead of relying on a YouTube video at all, but that’s whatever.

    I’m not saying I disagree. Every “Gifted” or “accelerated” kid I ever knew behaved differently than most people. It may well be a form of neurodivergence that isn’t just intelligence (which is a difficult thing to quantify properly in itself).

    I’m just saying that the post here doesn’t really provide anything useful to someone coming across it. There’s no meat here.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.devOPEnglish
      81·
      2 months ago

      but I can tell that “Gifted” as a term is not what you’ve presented in your post, not as of five years ago when my kid got placed into gifted classes and I went back looking into it and comparing it to what it was when I was a kid.

      I blame the english language, then. The Venn diagram MelodiousFunk posted should hopefully help visualize what I meant somewhat

      I’m just saying that the post here doesn’t really provide anything useful to someone coming across it. There’s no meat here.

      Hard to distill almost 3 hours of talk into a lemmy post, but a valid point

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, the diagram does a good job. And, English is a bitch lol. It’s hard enough as a native language to navigate all the weird rules and usages.