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I hate how accurate this is

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    1 year ago

    Lemmy: I don’t know, but I wouldn’t trust any bike helmet that I can’t compile myself from source. It’s best to just stay home behind (real) firewalls so the Big Bike doesn’t target you for your striped Linux socks.

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          The moment I got arch running I immediately started hearing about this Gentoo thing but I know for a fact the moment I use Gentoo everyone is gonna start making their own personal Linux distributions using Linux from scratch and then I’m gonna go further down the rabbit hole

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            Minus Arch, that was almost my exact experience with Linux back in 06. I started with Ubuntu. I let myself get pushed further into more and more customizable and faster distros and further until I was trying to figure out Gentoo. Then I put it down and took up drinking.

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        1 year ago

        Also also, if you decide to still get a helmet, don’t get a Chrome helmet.

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      Lemmy:
      from Eggdoy77: I don’t know, but I wouldn’t trust any bike helmet that I can’t build myself from source. It’s best to just stay home behind (real) firewalls so the Big Bike doesn’t target you for your striped Linux socks.

      rshmuck: have you ever actually looked at the helmet source let alone build it?

      Eggdoy77 no

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      Commercial bike helmets are a product of capitalism and the radical right wing Democrats are just protecting big business by suggesting to wear a helmet

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      I think we should defederate from all instances that do not disallow proprietary bikes and/or closed-source locks!

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      1 year ago

      This company lends out bikes for free, but they’re Nestlé-level immoral because they put ads on the bike

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    I’m not joking one bit when I say my Google results were several times more accurate 10 years ago, maybe even 15. Using Google is a chore now. Sketchy SEO is a major reason I hate searching for anything on the Internet these days, but ads and fake content made it downright miserable.

      • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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        More and more often I find myself clicking on my original text because Google decided it knows better than I do what I’m looking for.

    • Linssiili@sopuli.xyz
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      Give Kagi a go, it gives (usually) much better results. It’s a paid service, but you get 100 free searches as a trial

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      I wonder if we need to abandon the internet as it currently exists as a whole and start over from first principles and license all the software in such a way that prevents shareholders from profiting. After religion, that’s the main thing ruining global society at the moment, is shareholder profits.

    • gothicdecadence@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I use Brave search because the AI summaries are pretty good (don’t come at me), but you could use SearXNG to get a better overview of results. I also really really love using Perplexity.ai, it always gives you sources you can use as points for deeper searching

        • merc@sh.itjust.works
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          The worst thing is sorting by price. If you sort by reviews or something things look decent. Sort by price and you see pages and pages of things that are in the wrong category and very cheap.

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            Sorts by review: 5000 items that each have a single 5 star rating from years ago

            Sorts by price: 5000 items for under a dollar that are only tangentially related to what you’re looking for

            Sorts by relevance: Amazon Basics and some Chinese company doing business as a random collection of letters in all caps

          • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            I love how they blatantly hide tons of results any time I use sort lowest to highest. 🙃

      • AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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        I’ve just started buying from AliExpress because it’s literally the exact same item. Drop shipping destroyed Amazon’s credibility. If I’m gonna get garbage I may as well pay 95% less.

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    By the way, and I understand this is mostly about the joke. But getting a good bike helmet is really important, and there are reasons to buy a new one like every 4-5 years.

    Virginia Tech does extensive independent testing of bike helmets every year, really worth looking into if you’re going to buy one.

    link to Virginia Tech helmet test

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      Honest question: why every 4-5 years?

      I’ve always considered helmets good until you knock ‘em once. Then you have to replace ‘em because they lose their structural integrity crumpling to protect your noggin.

      Am I misinformed or is it a matter of “you’ll probably knock it in that timeframe, even if you don’t realize it?”

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        The problem is it really depends who you ask. On road.cc, a fairly reputable bike magazine/website, you can find this: link

        1. Do you need to change your helmet after a certain amount of time, even if you haven’t had a crash?

        Yes, but that’s not necessarily because the expanded polystyrene foam degrades over time, as April Beard, Bontrager’s (link is external) product manager for helmets, explains: “It really depends on how good of care you take of the helmet. There is no evidence that the EPS liner will deteriorate from age. Still, there are things such as solvents, chemicals and environmental exposure that can degrade the performance of the helmet.”

        Paul Caswell, the senior brand manager for Giro and Bell helmets’ distributor ZyroFisher agrees: “We normally recommend a new lid every three years depending on usage as even with no impacts there is a constant knocking and pressing of the EPS as the helmet is stored, dropped, placed on hard surfaces etc. Due to tiny impact after tiny impact over time, the EPS will gradually lose its volume making it less able to deal with the energy in the unfortunate event of an impact. Of course, the more the helmet is used, the more it will deteriorate, so one rule for all does not work here, but three years is a good guide.”

        Helmets.org, a non-profit consumer-funded program providing information about bicycle helmets, largely backs up the manufacturer’s stance. They cite data from an MEA Forensic study in 2015 that found that the foam liners of used but not crashed helmets retained their performance over many years, with some of the helmets tested being 26 years old.

        When you actually look on helmets.org I am not sure what part of the manufacturer’s stance they imply that this program backs. link

        Personally, I like to replace it every 4 years because I use mine a lot and I would rather fall for a selling trick than risk a higher chance of brain injury. In any case, a system like MIPS or wavecel would, in my opinion, justify buying a new helmet anyway if you don’t have that on your old one.

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          1 year ago

          I do this with motorcycle helmets. Yeah, if they’re stored in ideal conditions they might last forever. But I ain’t trusting my last two brain cells to that.

      • wander1236@sh.itjust.works
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        At a guess, it could be because the materials just naturally degrade over time. Any foam will start disintegrating, sun exposure could weaken the plastic, and the straps will fray.

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        I ride a motorcycle as my commuting vehicle and I find my helmet needs replacing every 5 years max, as the inner foam lining has compressed to point where it is no longer snug to my face and therefore unsafe.
        Push bike helmets would be made of similar materials, just with less coverage.
        So as @wander1236@sh.itjust.works says, it would be materials degradation.

          • Mountaineer@aussie.zone
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            Isn’t the foam lining replaceable?

            A helmet is like an Ogre (or an onion, but never parfait).

            I did a quick search for a diagram to illustrate this, and this one will do: Helmet Exploded Diagram

            On the outside, there will be a hard layer, normally made out of Fibreglass, Polycarbonate or Carbon Fiber depending on your budget and tolerance for weight. Beyond simply protecting the next layer, it’s primary purpose is to spread any impact trauma across the next layer.
            Under that will be a thick layer of expanded polystyrene foam - this is what saves your head in the event of unplanned rapid deceleration.
            Under than will be some comfort padding, normally attached to removable liners, which helps to keep the helmet comfortably in place on your head. This is the layer can be removed for washing/replacement.

            The one we are really worried about degrading is the polystyrene one, which isn’t readily replaceable.

            The outer shell is normally sculpted somewhat to assist with aerodynamics, which decrease wind buffeting and noise for the rider.
            There’s also vents and air channels, visor ratcheting mechanisms and on some helmets provisions for bluetooth communications systems, but that’s a whole other story.

            Your helmet is arguably the most important piece of kit you have, and the groupthink is to pay as much as you can afford about every 5 years (whether you ride every day or bi-annually).

    • cubedsteaks@lemmy.todayOP
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      ohh thank you. I actually fear physical activity cause I was in accident when I was younger that a helmet would not have even prevented but it does give me hope that maybe some day I’ll be able to ride a bike or a skateboard without having to worry about what happens to my cranium.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        I’m on a long-term hiatus from motorcycles at the moment after getting sideswiped by an SUV a few years ago. I was traveling at about 40MPH and had a “high-side” get-off, landed on my right side and face, then had my 300lb motorcycle strike me as I was sliding.

        Sounds likely to result in serious injury that requires physical therapy to relearn walking and possibly some reconstructive surgery, right? Well, thanks modern protective gear, I still have a face, and the only injuries that I had were a minor and rather rare internal injury akin to a bruise that required no medical intervention, a sprained ankle, and an abrasion about the size of a nickel on my arm that was treated with some ointment and a bandaid (at a criminally inflated price).

        Modern helmets and protective gear are incredible. I provided my experience in the hope that it gives you more hope. They make the stuff for skateboarding and bicycling the same way, for the most part (heavy, kevlar mesh is a bit impractical and unnecessary at the lower speeds). It can keep you safe, as long as you use the safety gear between your ears.

          • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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            Only familiar with those used for sleep, I’m afraid. But, custom fitting is much cheaper and easier now than it was in the past - can be done through the mail even. Custom fit guards are likely to be superior in protection.

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    AI ruined google , it so sad to see the current state of the internet … there used to be so many articles with real effort being put in written by people with real passion for their field of knowledge … now if you want a genuine answer either you have to reddit it or search for a article written by a genuinely knowledgeable person (which is very hard as they get often burried upon by AI writen shit articles)

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      Why can they not wear a helmet without getting involved in politics? What kind of weird take is that?

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        If you can spare a few hours every week getting involved in a great use of your time. Not just for safer infrastructure. Hold your town accountable in other things.

        Most people only care after things happen. People should show up when things are being decided on.

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        No, I expect them to at least go yo the ballot and vote for people who are pro cycling, for example.

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      Yeah fuck off. I’m keeping my helmet and I’ll keep on judging dimwits riding without. Fucking stupid riding without.

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        Yeah, it’s simple as that. 100% of dutch cyclists are fucking stupid /s

        Edit: typo

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        sure, keep on wearing your helmet, but don’t let it obscure you from fighting the real problem: badly designed streets making cycling unsafe.

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          more people die falling down stairs & hitting their head, than riding a bicycle & hitting their head. A helmet should only be necessary if you’re going very fast (road bike, fast e-bike) or off-road (mountainbike). If felt needed by the majority of cyclists in regular urban situation: how the urban environment was built, sucks.

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    Then there’s the one or two sites where actual experts spend time and effort to review things in a thorough and unbiased way mixed in with 20+ review sites that look like they’re legit ones but have no expertise, spend no effort on reviewing, and are just there to earn money from ads and affiliate links.

    Unless you’re an expert, or you spend a lot of time and effort, you don’t know which sites are legit reviews and which just look legit. If you are an expert, you probably don’t need the sites.

    What makes / made Reddit valuable is that there were communities where experts hung out and posted opinions, not because they were getting paid, just because they were interested in the subject. Not being paid was a double-edged sword though. It means that the person isn’t biased by money or trying to earn a commission. OTOH it meant that they had no incentive to be objective, to be helpful, and so-on.

    It meant that one dude who had had a bad experience with a windslapper was motivated to bring up their bad experience whenever the subject came up, but wasn’t motivated to post to actually provide well-rounded advice when people were just asking about helmet recommendations.

    It doesn’t help that any attempt to create a “seal of legitimacy” or something for a review site is always co-opted by the brands who have a vested interest in moving their own product.

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    There was a good article (maybe video?) posted not too long ago about how Google search results came to suck I wish I could find.

    I think it essentially came down to ad revenue and websites tailoring their content to fit Google’s algorithm.

    Very annoying. Even the old tip of adding the word Reddit to get results from real people is annoying these days because of how they try to push you to login.

    Edit: this was the article

    https://www.theverge.com/23846048/google-search-memes-images-pagerank-altavista-seo-keywords

    • FuntyMcCraiger@sh.itjust.works
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      Reddit is not even safe anymore. I googled some products and tagged Reddit on the end and the first result was someone who had made a bot that just collects referral links into a big list and names it “top ten x of 2023”.

      Taking a look at the history and it’s just thousands of links.

      The internet has shit itself to death.

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        At least that is typically more obvious on first glance than an independent site that tricks you at first

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      try to push you to login

      And to download the app.

      And to consent to their usage of cookies.

      And to really download the app.

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      I think it essentially came down to ad revenue and websites tailoring their content to fit Google’s algorithm.

      I use to work for a local pest control company who would legit check google reviews, contact their guy at google ad’s and then ask to have the bad reviews removed and the company would pay for that.

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          I never got to find out. I would just email some manager saying we got a bad review and then she’d “take care of it”

          it was all very sketchy.

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    Feels like most top results are chatgpt now, doesn’t matter what you search for. The top result when I was looking for an estimated cost of fencing had a paragraph telling itself to describe the costs and blah blah

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    Yeah. I just bought an espresso machine and the above was my exact experience shopping around. Hundreds of reddit posts about how I really need to drop $5000, MINIMUM, to make a good cup of anything that isn’t shit. And to not forget that I need a $2000 grinder to go with it or I might as well just buy a nespresso and call it a day.

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      $5000, MINIMUM

      JESUS.

      Yeah that is ridiculous. Some coffee shops aren’t even paying that much.

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        Reddit’s big problem is how much its userbase tends to skew toward men, often single men, in their 20s and 30s who make WAY too much money because they’re doing whatever preposterously lucrative tech job that you aren’t doing while you struggle in a normie job. Also shout out to similar men now in their 40s and 50s who have been quietly making $200,000+ a year for the last ten years while the average person is doing pretty damn well to pull down 50k, which is the current mean yearly salary in the US.

        So they never struggle with rent and bills, and they always have money for pricey toys. Also, capitalism has been unequivocally telling them with a number that they and their opinion are more valuable than other people. Why, they’re literally worth 5 of you, just compare the paychecks.

        This will not be made clear on the surface, though. You have to live there for a while like it’s a city, picking up the fairly obvious clues as you notice them.

        Like in 2020 when everyone was in a panic about how they were going to pay their rent now that 30% of the US was unemployed, but at the same time GPUs for personal computers were at just insane prices, $3000 for a top line GPU was the norm for that year.

        That did not stop Reddit from buying GPUs at those prices, just to have something fun to do under lockdown. If you aren’t on Reddit a lot, you don’t get to string together such data points and start getting an idea of how much money these people really have. It’s kind of insane. Somebody is buying those $2 million 4 bedroom houses in the Bay Area, it’s just not you.

        This is also why it’s such an infamously good source for answers to techy questions. As much as it is an international platform, it is almost literally just the time-waster of choice for the entire North American West Coast IT community, from SoCal all the way up to Vancouver. New York City is kind of there, but that seems to be a Twitter town. The rest of us on Reddit are just the peasants in steerage.

        Also, Reddit might be juuust a little bit autistic, so when they fixate on something it tends to be unreasonable. It’s not always so, but there’s a trend, one that also tends to mesh well with employment in tech.

        You? You just wondered in from the wilderness outside and asked this beast what kind of coffee machine you should buy, but you have more of a Walmart budget. Good luck.

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          Basically all this. I happen to be in the right vertical, but definitely haven’t been making $200k/yr for the last 10 years like many of them have. So dropping $5k, or $3k was just too much, even if I did save up for a year and spend a bit more than I originally hoped.

          For the “good answers to techy questions”… ehh. I promise it’s the same “everyone strangling each other” problem with techy questions. Just look at a programming subreddit talk about javascript, or vice-versa. I’m surprised nobody has been literally swatted yet for advocating OOP over functional programming or the opposite.

          But for autistic? Oh fuck yeah. Those same folks tend to be on the spectrum, without a doubt. It’s a balance between being social enough to function and negotiate, and autistic enough to be able to stare at a line of code for 36 hours straight without meals or sleep. I wouldn’t change it for the world, but I also don’t hang out with many people in the industry either.

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        Slight exaggeration there. Actually they usually poo-poo on anything less than the Lelit Bianca at $3000. Unless you get a cheap single-boiler and mod it to fuck.

        The $1000-2000 range is this battleground between Heat Exchanger machines, or “buy this otherwise badly-rated double-boiler at the top of the range and just pray because Heat Exchangers are worthless shit and you might as well just go to starbucks”.

        Fortunately, in my research I found mister James Hoffman, a down-to-earth espresso snob who is also one of the best baristas in the last 30 years and has been a coffee advocate forever. He seems to think a good HX unit is great, and I ended up buying his #1 pick and calling it a day. Because the other machine in my price range people were talking up (and insulting) got bad marks from him. When it shows up, I’ll know if I made the right choice, or if the reddit army was right and I needed to save up another year or two.

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          James Hoffman is a much much much better source of coffee* related information than anything on Reddit

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            That’s why I put my money on his pick. It’s a lot of money (been saving up for over a year), so I’m excited and scared at the same time.

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    Sometimes you get lucky and there’s a recent Wirecutter article but then of course the top options are all sold out or not available where you live.

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    If helmets are so important then why are there still Dutch people alive…

    checkmate atheists

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    Ahh yes, the downside of using Jerboa. Sometimes it doesn’t like certain images and doesn’t let them view you. Even worse: tried opening the post in my web browser and it refused to show as well!

    The things I do for not being on r€ddit anymore…

    Edit: Copied thumbnail link and it works. I’m an absolute dipshit.