General Discussion Thread - Juche 112, Week 36 - eviltoast
      • JuneFall [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I would say part of 2LGBTQIA*+, but doesn’t quite feel queer to me. Still very real struggles and contradictions in the topic.

        Did you know that as bigamists aren’t allowed entry in the USA?

        Planning to Practice Polygamy in the U.S. Makes U.S. Immigrant Visa Applicants Inadmissible. Anyone seeking an immigrant visa (lawful permanent residence or a green card) who plans to come to the U.S. and practice polygamy is considered inadmissible (barred from U.S. entry). (See I.N.A. Section 212(a)(10)(A).)

        This of course also has Islamophobic connotations, but not only those.

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Especially when you go to poly munches it can feel very middle class. There isn’t a particular reason for it to be queer as such but it just isn’t part of the cis comp het system. So we would have several very tedious struggle sessions about it for sure.

          That is an intresting contradiction. Pretty much every one of our oligarchs is openly polygamous. So in the way of patriarchy polyamory being a feminist alternative to polygamy is frowned upon by society

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            but it just isn’t part of the cis comp het system

            Absolutely agree and the middle class thing isn’t wrong. Though funny enough before it became more mainstream known many places in which good munches and workshops in my city happened (often under labels somewhat different to polyamory) they were from leftists, sometimes feminist, sometimes autonomous somewhat anarchist groups. So your point about a feminist polyamory which is an alternative to both the official and inofficial polygamy (think Elon Musk or Donald Trump) as well as the patriarchial polyamory which is exclusionary in terms of gender identities in practice does really vibe with me.

            it just isn’t part of the cis comp het system

            Absolutely.

            There would of course be challenges brought in in addition to other points that poly means exclusion of neurodivergent people, not only due to sane-ism, but due to the non materialist idea that enough communication and talking about problems does fix them as example.