Can we have a discussion about the rhetoric in this community? - eviltoast

I often see people in the comments acting like having a fast or loud car immediately makes your dick smaller or that you have ED. And people talk about owning a car as if they’ve never gone above 40 MPH and are terrified to do so.

For context I live in a city with actually ok mass transit, don’t own a car, and prefer to bike/take the train whenever possible. Trains, trolleys, bikes, and feet are the best forms of transportation imo.

That being said, body shaming or making fun of people with physical or mental issues (that may be no fault of their own) is just shitty. It makes this community look shitty. I hate reading comments about “loud car small dick this” or “fast car ED that”. It’s unnecessary. You can shit on asshole drivers without having to stoop that low. Secondly, some women enjoy cars as well; be more creative.

Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun. I’m all for phasing out the automobile and revolutionizing transport by returning to the ways of olde, but cars are fun. I understand some of you are grandparents and don’t like someone revving their straight pipes mustang down your block on a Saturday morning. That’s completely reasonable. But my god does this community act like you can’t have fun in a car. I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars, because that’s an incredible work of engineering and it simply can be fun. Going fast can be fun. Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun. Going offroading or drifting or racing or anything in a car can be fun.

We won’t convince people to see our side by shitting on the things they enjoy. We convince people to try and see things from our point of view by actually looking through their perspective first, and acknowledging that while cars can be fun they are not sustainable.

ETA: Some people seem to think I think public roads should still be for cars. Never did I say that. I think the appropriate place for cars is the track. I would love to convert all the roads in my city to a mixture of bike and pedestrian lanes with trolleys running down the median. But cars can be fun and a track day can absolutely be a great time.

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    2 months ago

    Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun.

    GTFO. Cars are not fun at all. I’ve been driving them for decades. They suck. Bikes are fun. Gokarts are fun. Cars are garbage. Don’t try to gaslight me.

    that’s an incredible work of engineering

    It’s really not. It’s trash from 100+ years ago.

    Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun.

    Creepy.

    Going offroading or drifting or racing or anything

    Yes, cars can be fun in the land of imagination where “anything” is possible!

    Hey I get it though. Nuclear missiles can be “fun” too. With the big noises and the fast rocket! Riding them like Dr. Strangelove or whatever! VROOOOOMM! VROOOM!!! … Just don’t tell that BS to my face.

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      2 months ago

      I guess you’re one of the people who haven’t driven above 40mph.

      But seriously, just because you don’t enjoy something doesn’t mean that no one else can. I don’t particularly like driving, but I had fun when the rental car company only had a convertible instead of an economy car.

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      I dont agree with anything else OP says, but cars can be fun.

      They are fun if you can choose to drive them when you want to.

      They are not fun if you are forced to use them every day.

      And I am not talking about polluting the whole neigborhood with noise and exhaust fumes fun, thats just asshole behaviour.

      I still have a 110HP Nissan NV200 (small Bus) that I use mostly to get to my rural family and when I go full throttle in lower gears the acceleration is fun. Keep in mind that its a stock exhaust and Euro 6, so its not loud even at full throttle and the exhaust is reasonably clean.

      But most of the time I ride my bike everywhere, because that is even more fun.