In lore? The East Coast was struck a lot more compared to the West Coast, there are many more population centers and important strategic assets to bomb compared to the East. Therefore the people were set back much farther and rebuilding civilization takes a lot longer. Also, the lack of a unified government forming and rebuilding caused major delays in rebuilding on the East. The NCR really jumpstarted the West Coast’s recovery. The closest we can see in the East was the Provisional Comminwealth Government but that was swiftly destroyed by the Institute and all that remains are small settlements.
In Real Life? Bethesda is bad at dates and times and wanted to do funny things, it’s the same reason why food is on store shelves for the player to find and every ammo box still has stuff for you.
for your last point, fallout 3 was originally going to be set like 20 years after the bombs dropped, but they switched it to 200 years somewhere down the line in devlopment
the 20 year thing makes much more sense in some areas, like the lady in arefu who is pretending the world didnt end
I remember reading something like that but not why they ended up switching the date. I assume because the factions weren’t around yet and they wanted the BoS, but I never saw a dev or writer confirm it.
It’s actually kind of my major (and basically only) beef with the show. The West Coast was basically recovered, it had this whole story arc where the NCR was playing out the American cycle again including a Manifest Destiny idea, humanity never learns etc, and then it just collapses because Todd can’t be trusted with other people’s toys. Like, the NCR had more than one city, and more than one important city, it was like pretending 1812 America would collapse because Washington DC got burned.
Again, deep diving into the lore, the NCR was on the decline already. We see it in New Vegas. The Bear was bloated and encumbered itself with pointless wars of expansion and major corruption. The Boneyard Seperatists were gaining traction, and other parts of the country were in economic distress. The Mojave Territory is simultaneously over and underfunded, and is being used as a distraction from the major internal problems. If Shady Sands was nuked in a non-NCR ending to New Vegas I could see every city rising up and forming their own states.
That’s the thing, all that shit is true about Manifest Destiny America too. And if the NCR had dissolved into semi-functional city states that’d be a cool element but we didn’t see any evidence of it.
I partially believe they didn’t want to introduce too much beyond what Tod Howard outlined in case the next game takes place in the new ruins of California and it all gets retconned. More than likely Howard just told them Shady Springs is destroyed and the NCR collapsed so that’s all they wanted to show. New Vegas being in supposed ruin is the bigger point that opens up a lot of questions.
I always wondered why on towns they still had dirty broken houses full of skeletons.
In lore? The East Coast was struck a lot more compared to the West Coast, there are many more population centers and important strategic assets to bomb compared to the East. Therefore the people were set back much farther and rebuilding civilization takes a lot longer. Also, the lack of a unified government forming and rebuilding caused major delays in rebuilding on the East. The NCR really jumpstarted the West Coast’s recovery. The closest we can see in the East was the Provisional Comminwealth Government but that was swiftly destroyed by the Institute and all that remains are small settlements.
In Real Life? Bethesda is bad at dates and times and wanted to do funny things, it’s the same reason why food is on store shelves for the player to find and every ammo box still has stuff for you.
for your last point, fallout 3 was originally going to be set like 20 years after the bombs dropped, but they switched it to 200 years somewhere down the line in devlopment
the 20 year thing makes much more sense in some areas, like the lady in arefu who is pretending the world didnt end
I remember reading something like that but not why they ended up switching the date. I assume because the factions weren’t around yet and they wanted the BoS, but I never saw a dev or writer confirm it.
It’s actually kind of my major (and basically only) beef with the show. The West Coast was basically recovered, it had this whole story arc where the NCR was playing out the American cycle again including a Manifest Destiny idea, humanity never learns etc, and then it just collapses because Todd can’t be trusted with other people’s toys. Like, the NCR had more than one city, and more than one important city, it was like pretending 1812 America would collapse because Washington DC got burned.
On the other hand, it was fun, so, whatever.
Again, deep diving into the lore, the NCR was on the decline already. We see it in New Vegas. The Bear was bloated and encumbered itself with pointless wars of expansion and major corruption. The Boneyard Seperatists were gaining traction, and other parts of the country were in economic distress. The Mojave Territory is simultaneously over and underfunded, and is being used as a distraction from the major internal problems. If Shady Sands was nuked in a non-NCR ending to New Vegas I could see every city rising up and forming their own states.
That’s the thing, all that shit is true about Manifest Destiny America too. And if the NCR had dissolved into semi-functional city states that’d be a cool element but we didn’t see any evidence of it.
Maybe next season?
I partially believe they didn’t want to introduce too much beyond what Tod Howard outlined in case the next game takes place in the new ruins of California and it all gets retconned. More than likely Howard just told them Shady Springs is destroyed and the NCR collapsed so that’s all they wanted to show. New Vegas being in supposed ruin is the bigger point that opens up a lot of questions.