Daily Discussion - 18 September 2024 - eviltoast

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  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Ridiculous that there’s still so much chatter about Timber’s possible sending off. That was a nothing challenge and Porro hammed it up.

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      It’s like the “push” on Romero for the goal. If the goal was disallowed for that it would have been farcical.

      I could be wrong in my assessment, this is just based off of the replay they showed during the live coverage, but Timber doesn’t intentionally step on Porro’s ankle/foot. He steps on the ball and the momentum of his movement and the ball causes his foot to roll off and down onto Porro.

      I don’t remember correctly, but the contact doesn’t look as bad as it maybe did live. Not to mention that for all of Porro’s rolly-pollys, the club physios never came on to look at it (maybe they just don’t care xD), he then played on to finish the full 95mins and, if I remember correctly, made some dangerous runs into the box with ease.

      If he had to be substituted off, that’s one thing. But he didn’t and played the rest of the match unaffected.

      So it now just looks like a bunch of theatrics to have an Arsenal player sent off who was already on a yellow.

      • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        You are spot on. He put his foot on the ball and the pace of the ball caused his foot to roll off. And to me it looked like his for barely even touched Porro’s for after that. No malice in it. And as several pundits were saying, players do that all the time with no consequence.

        And yes, Porro not only played the rest of the match, but they were using him as basically an extra striker at the end. He was clearly not injured in any way. That was a yellow at best. I would have given him a yellow fit grabbing their keeper’s shirt more than for that incident with the ball. But again, that was very trivial, and players get into little scuffles like that all the time with no cards given. So even that was stretching it. And by definition the same applies for their keeper.

        I think it was either Romero or Bentancour who Big Gabi pushed before our goal. But that was also a great example of the spuds looking for a non-existent foul. There was no malice or real force in that push either. It was just one player pushing off another to make some space. Happens all the time. That spuds’ player’s attempt to whine for a foul for that was pathetic.

        The shit’s frequent tenancy to bottle it is now legendary. Yet we are the ones thought of by some as being soft. I guess it’s takes time for reality to catch up with reputations.

        • Nuggsy@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Exactly that. We’ve seen much worse punished for much less and, as you pointed out, there was no malice, he was challenging for the ball, which he won.

          How many times have players ploughed into Saka and nothing gets given? People talk about how Arsenal are soft and then complain when they put in a good hard tackle, which is what people like… they want to eat their cake and have it too.

          You might be right about Bentancur. I’m probably getting mixed up with Romero not tracking Big Gabby.

      • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        From Porro’s shit-caked perspective, why wouldn’t he give it a go? It worked last week and Veltman was barely punished. On top of that the entire media circus about how Rice should have known better as opposed to Veltman not being such a fucking cunt means that he probably had a 40% chance of pulling it off successfully. Notice that he went down about 4 times during the match (including the initial incident) and the physios never once left the touchline. Meaning that even the staff knew it was bullshit, and somehow pundits maintain that Timber should be fired into the sun for daring to touch a ball.

  • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I genuinely need to stop reading anything to do with Rice’s second yellow. I’m about to put a fist through my monitor.

    "“Once he’s seen Declan Rice deliberately, clearly kick that ball away from the position of that free-kick, then I don’t think he’s got any choice.” Footage of a similar offence committed by Joao Pedro, but that was not punished was then played with Webb explaining the difference between the two incidents.

    “It’s a different type of scenario,” he said. “It sits in the same kind of book around delaying the restart. Of course, he should have been cautioned here. The officials on the field gave him too much benefit of doubt, feeling that the actions weren’t really impactful because they felt that the Arsenal players were not ready to take that throw-in.”

    “They felt the Arsenal playesr were not ready to take that throw-in”… and Veltman was? You can just say “the officials on the field gave Brighton the benefit of the doubt and not Arsenal”, save us all some fucking time and brain cells, you incompetent and biased fucks.

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        2 months ago

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