Would the internet be significantly faster if there wasn't so much farming of metadata / cookies? - eviltoast

I grew up during the dial up era of internet and remember how insane it was each time the technology improved, broadband, dsl, fiber etc.

I wouldn’t expect pages to instantly load, but I have to imagine all the data farming is causing sites to be extremely bogged down.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Lets put it this way: A typical news page pulls a few megabytes of HTML, CSS, their own images, web framework scripts, advertising, etc. For showing about 500-1000 bytes of actual text.

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      1 year ago

      Worse still, a lot of “modern” designs don’t even both including that trivial amount of content in the page, so if you’ve got a bad connection you get a page with some of the style and layout loaded, but nothing actually in it.

      I’m not really sure how we arrived at this point, it seems like use of lazy-loading universally makes things worse, but it’s becoming more and more common.

      I’ve always vaguely assumed it’s just a symptom of people having never tested in anything but their “perfect” local development environment; no low-throughput or high-latency connections, no packet loss, no nothing. When you’re out here in the real world, on a marginal 4G connection - or frankly even just connecting to a server in another country - things get pretty grim.

      Somewhere along the way, it feels like someone just decided that pages often not loading at all was more acceptable than looking at a loading progress bar for even a second or two longer (but being largely guaranteed to have the whole page once you get there).

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      1 year ago

      Other than a couple of top-tier ad companies like Google and FB, ad companies tend to have really bad technology. They can’t attract the best engineering talent because everyone hates ads and they are a mess to work with. As a result, advertising code is garbage and runs like shit. News sites who are not primarily tech companies are at the mercy of ad companies to run their advertising and they end up piled down with third party crap. Most small ad companies are smash-and-grab efforts by a few ruthless entrepreneurs to vampire away small sites’ revenue or steal a bunch of user data and sell it. They all want to be acquired by a bigger company and walk away with some cash. No one is working on solving problems long term.

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        1 year ago

        Fuck it. Might start an ad running business to draw in people who want to run ads and then mysteriously have a severe server fire.