The US finally takes aim at truck bloat - eviltoast
  • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    If there isn’t a weight limit, nothing else matters. Limit truck to <3500lbs, ban cameras and require ~130 degree unobstructed view for all mirrors.

    • LovesTha🥧@floss.social
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      2 months ago

      @PowerCrazy @return2ozma I like where you are heading. Probably better to define being able to see a set of targets around the vehicle. Easier to define, harder to game.

      I wouldn’t ban cameras, but I would require the visibility be obtained without them. Cameras can give vision that is useful and implausible without them.

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        2 months ago

        I wouldn’t ban cameras, but I would require the visibility be obtained without them. Cameras can give vision that is useful and implausible without them.

        Yea this is probably the better play. But too often with modern cars they use the existence of the camera’s to make the sight lines impossibly dangerous (the infamous front facing camera on the f150 for example).

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          @PowerCrazy Yeah.

          And why aren’t they putting in more useful cameras. My new car has at least 6 exteria cameras, but why isn’t their a pair of cameras at the rear pointing sideways? Getting that view when reversing out of a perpendicular parking space would be *really* valuable.

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        I’m of the opinion that vehicle registration should be by mass. I think that adding extra for use case and for expected hauling is also reasonable. We can allow the gas tax to slowly fade into a carbon tax while making registration be both the way we fund roads and a progressive tax on those who do more damage to them. We can even have different vehicle categories with different weight costs for incentives.

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        2 months ago

        Cars didn’t used to weigh that much and the safety regulations can still exist, it just requires car manufactures to fix their safety issues without adding more weight ultimately making everyone less safe.

        A 1990 Ford Ranger weighed <3000 lbs.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
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      But that also mean truck can’t electrify. Tesla Model 3 weight around 3500lbs, a Ford F150 Lightning weight 6500lbs. That’s mean a “small” pickup truck like Nissan Navara/Frontier, which weight around 3500lbs, when turned into electric vehicle it will be around 4900lbs. A toyota Hilux 1998 also weight around 3600lbs.

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        2 months ago

        It can electrify, it just can’t be carrying around batteries that will give it 300miles of range. A ford Ranger from 1990 weighs <3000lbs.

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            2 months ago

            “Pointless” god I wish we lived in that society.

            Off-road vehicles don’t need to be registered or conform to any safety standards so if you are designing something for off-road use, none of this stuff matters, you just can’t ALSO drive it on-road.