Anon dislikes Steam - eviltoast
  • SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    Also provides:

    • a giant platform

    • a payment system

    • distribution network

    • servers

    • sales data

    • fraud prevention

    • networking

    • automated build processes

    Also the drm is completely optional. So if a game has it, it’s because the devs wanted it have it.

    Edit: these are only a few. Take a look at the official steamworks page

    • averyminya@beehaw.org
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      5 months ago

      If the game is local co-op ask you need to do is click a checkbox.

      Also community mod support.

      I get that the post is probably just meme, and that if real the type of person to post this probably pirates all their games on Linux and doesn’t use other storefronts either, but like do they want everyone to do the same thing? Don’t we want to buy games from developers so they can continue to do that? And the other storefronts, well one, might have a lower cut, but they also provide pretty much jack-sh unless you count money upfront and no lasting support as being a provider.

  • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 months ago

    Disclaimer: My steam account is turning 21 next month, and I own more games there than I’d like to admit.

    There’s a lot of valid criticism of steam or valve.

    The main one I’d say is the 30% cut. But that’s sadly basically industry standard. For an indie dev, that’s still a lot better than having to go through things like a publisher.

    Oh, and lootboxes. fuck those. should be banned.

    Other than that, let’s go through the list:

    • paved way for MT: Mobile games did that first. And nobody is forcing you to use them. But people do. So they keep coming. Solution: don’t use them if you don’t like them (but hint: people genuinely like them). (Although lootboxes etc are a whole different and rightfully critisized thing that should indeed be banned)
    • forces you to get the mobile app: I mean, it’s annoying, sure. But I wouldn’t call it spyware. Personally, I’d be happier with a simpler TOTP 2FA integration. What it does do is cut down massively on account hacking
    • The multiplayer API is quite nice. Personally, I don’t really care much about pirated games, but I can kind of understand them not working with steam. But that’s 100% on the game developer. They are the ones integration steamworks. Or any other matchmaking service.
    • stopped HL3: Not really. For a long time they already stated that they will not be forcing HL3 development “just to get HL3 out”. They will develop it when they have an idea and story that will absolutely be worth to tell. and it will have some accompanying tech “revolution” with it. HL:Alyx was close. I’m still surprised that they didn’t use that as a base to start HL3 (or maybe they secretly do?)
    • gamification: it’s not really that much more gamified than having any other game collection before steam? It’s just a lot more social and easier to obtain. Would I have spent this much money on games without steam? no. Would it even be possible? Likely also no. Too many indie games due to steam.
    • pay for animated wallpapers/avatars: I mean… okay? Personally, I have some weird animated wallpaper, but I got that for free somewhere. and it’s annoying as hell.
    • Broken features: I don’t really encounter any broken features. Even my Steam Link hardware box still works (although last time I tested it was a couple months ago). Even the single group chat I’m in works fine.
    • Steam chat: no idea what the features are they are talking about. So no comment.
    • Useless reviews: The world moved on from 5-star reviews. With almost all reviews either being 5 stars or 1 stars, it doesn’t really make a difference. In the end the question is: would you recommend it? Which can be somewhat binary, or at least tending towards one direction. For details, use text
    • family share: I mean, that’s kind of the point. The idea is to simulate having only one copy. So you’ll get booted out if someone else you’re sharing with is using it.
    • steam deck worse notebook: kind of. But my linux laptop also doesn’t have a dedicated GPU. and gamepad controls.
    • JS desktop app: oh boy, it was so much worse when it wasn’t
    • it’s not literally an always on DRM. there’s literally an offline mode. If the developer wants an online connection, annoy the developer.

    tl;dr: apart from the gambling enabling, it’s fine.

  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    Not in for the discussion, but to add info:

    You could use e.g. KeepassXC or “steam desktop authenticator” to avoid their aweful app.

      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
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        1 month ago

        It isn’t, but keepassxc e.g. still works perfectly fine. Yet, SDA was very helpful for a looong time.

        • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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          1 month ago

          How exactly does keepassxc help? It’s just a password manager. Even if it does 2fa, Steam doesn’t provide secrets to export.

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            1 month ago

            Now I’m unsure and can’t check coz I’m not at home near my pc. But it seems to still work. I just login so rarely (because i never logout and the pc is always on)

            I quote some random user:

            “The Steam TOTP feature is why I chose KeePassXC, and still works great. The only thing people have to do is use a program like mentioned above (Steam Desktop Authenticator) to grab your steam account’s shared secret, then convert from Base64 -> Hex, and then from Hex to Base32.”

            I hate the steam app and don’t want to use a stupid app for everything. If neither SDA nor keepassxc work anymore I’d be forced to remove 2fa 😒