“Communism bad” - eviltoast
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    3 months ago

    It’s been democratically instituted many times. And every time America marches in and “liberates” them.

    It’s difficult to provide good examples when they’re all actively destroyed.

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      3 months ago

      Cuba. Cuba has the most educated population in North America, more doctors per capita then almost any other nation. The only reason they’re struggling is because America’s embargo. They want stuff too.

    • eatCasserole@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Mostly this, although Vietnam is doing quite well, especially considering their circumstances.

      Cuba is also really interesting…not thriving, to be sure, but you have to end the US blockade before you blame them for their own hardships. And in spite of everything, they have democracy like we’ve never seen in the west.

      Edit: also what beejboytyson said about Cuba.

      • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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        The US dropped more napalm, and bombs, and agent orange on vietnam (a comparatively small country) than it did during all of WW2. Lots of its people are still suffering from this atrocity.

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          Sadly true. And most people aren’t aware that they did pretty much the same thing to Laos, who they weren’t even at war with. They just carpet bombed the whole country, “just in case.”

          Fuck the USA. They’re literally the evil empire from star wars.

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            It’s so funny that george lucas was like: “the rebels are the vietnamese communists, and the empire is the USA (its soldiers the storm troopers)” and somehow a lot of modern star wars fans are extremely pro-US, and never connect the dots.

            IMO the biggest critique of star wars, its that lucas didn’t focus at all on the lives of the stormtruppen, and force its audience in the imperial core to look in the mirror, at their values, their chauvinist culture, their pro-war ideology and news media.

            Still gotta keep blaming the rebels for all the world’s problems.

      • zzx@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Ah yes my favorite authoritative source on the mathematics of democracy: a YouTube video.

        Fuck off

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          3 months ago

          Veritasium is legit, they cite their sources and explain concepts exceptionally well.

          However, I don’t think the conclusion of the video is “Democracy is mathematically impossible”, but rather “perfect representation in a democracy” is mathematically impossible (but can still be much much better than FPTP).

          The video basically goes through all the top voting systems and explains their pros and cons and the history of the mathematicians who invented the systems.

          • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world
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            but rather “perfect representation in a democracy” is mathematically impossible (but can still be much much better than FPTP).

            It’s not even that. The more accurate title would be “Ranked voting types cannot mathematically meet all of the requirements of democracy this one guy made”

            The whole video I wanted to yell out “so switch to approval voting”.

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      Yeah but all forms of government are constantly attacked. You’re like a multicellular organism crying foul because bacteria and other pathogens are trying to invade it.

      One of the reasons capitalism wins is it produces enough wealth to win wars. Consistently. The same wealth that leads to ever-lower levels of poverty also wins wars.