An ‘earthquake’ at Volkswagen – and a crisis for Germany? - eviltoast
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    My previous comment was removed for being anti-Nazi or something, idk. I was never given an explanation. Weird and disappointing behaviour from a mod. It shouldn’t be controversial to think Nazis are bad. But I guess this is the world we live in now.

    But no, not “completely”. Completely.

    The quotes make it seem like moving a car factory is in fact tantamount to Nazism. Which it isn’t. Only a fool would think that moving a car factory is tantamount to installing a brutal warmongering dictatorship that systematically murders religious and ethnic minorities, the disabled, etc.

    You need to brush up on your history if you think the Nazis are bad because they moved factories about.

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      I deleted the comment because of the ad-hominem insult (“are you the biggest fuckwit?”). Please do look into the mod log before making such accusations.

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        Where can I see this? I’m looking about but can’t find any mod log. Usually mods would inform commenters if they censor thsm, rather than do it silently.

        Why were other comments removed, in that case? E.g. I don’t see how “I don’t think you know what Nazism means”, in reply to a person who thinks moving a car factory is Nazi ideology is an example of rule breaking.

        And apologies for the pedantry, but an ad hominem is when you dismiss someone’s argument by attacking their character or their motivations. That’s not what I did. I explained why their argument (‘moving factories is Nazism’) is absurd, then asked if they were a fuckwit. I didn’t call them a fuckwit and leave it at that.

        Rude? Yeah tbh it was, and I guess that’s against a rule. But it’s certainly not an ad hominem, and I kind of take issue with people seeking to minimise and whitewash Nazis, and tbh, I will be unapologetically rude to people who do that. I think Nazis are bad.

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          2 months ago
          • Mod log for !Europe specifically: https://p.lemmy.world/modlog?community=761207
          • I removed some comments further down the thread because they were unproductive bickering. That affected comments both by you and sunzu02.
          • You’re right about me misusing the term ad-hominem. Thanks. :)
          • If that’s not obvious, please don’t pose rhetorical questions asking people whether they’re “fuckwits”.
          • It seems neither side here is trying to whitewash Nazis.
          • There’s one side who didn’t appear to be listening to the other. I’ve temporarily banned sunzu02.
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      You are still ignoring key fact that a family who made their fortunes as nazis are still a key shareholders of major German publically traded company.

      Aa for VW plans to shut down factories is a separate issue.

      My response was the cavalier attitude that germans have about their elites and how they went completely without punishment.

      Common German bootlicker sees no issue with this, rest of people are tired of this behavior. American slavers and Germany nazis got away with the crime because “capital”

      No, nobody is going to just “completely” move on.

      No amount of stupid books written by some cucked historians to white wash this history going to fix bad historical facts for the German elites. I am surprised regular Germany is this will to larp this propaganda

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        You are still ignoring key fact that a family who made their fortunes as nazis are still a key shareholders of major German publically traded company.

        This is the first time you’ve mentioned it to me directly. I haven’t ignored it.

        And again, what’s the relevance? Yeah some people who were Nazis 85 years ago had a business. Now in 2024 their descendants are still rich and still invested.

        • What does this have to do with news that VW is considering moving a factory?

        • How is this proof of present-day Nazism within the VW group? Can you point to any Nazism? Do you have proof? Because your original comment was about VW effectively being a Nazi organisation making Nazi moves.

        • What is it you want? People today being punished by the government based on the sins of their ancestors? If so, I certainly hope nobody in your family tree has ever been a criminal.

        My response was the cavalier attitude that germans have about their elites and how they went completely without punishment.

        Common German bootlicker sees no issue with this, rest of people are tired of this behavior. American slavers and Germany nazis got away with the crime because “capital”

        No, nobody is going to just “completely” move on.

        No amount of stupid books written by some cucked historians to white wash this history going to fix bad historical facts for the German elites. I am surprised regular Germany is this will to larp this propaganda

        Sounds like you should be expressing this opinion on a submission about the postwar period in Germany, not on a submission about a car factory possibly being moved, which is a completely and utterly unrelated matter.

        E: more removed comments. Can I at least get an explanation, please?