NATO apologism - eviltoast

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  • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I would much prefer every country in the planet being in NATO.

    Any country attacks any other country? Literally the whole world goes to defend it. So no invasions are possible.

    It wouldn’t work though. Wouldn’t take much time for alliances to form that agree to not follow NATO’S rules.

    • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      Nah, I want war. I want the rest of the world to go to war with the US. They’ve got a Nazi problem. We beat the Nazis in 1945 and we might need to beat them again in 2045.

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        3 months ago

        My brother in freedom, we first need to make sure the US and all of our big shiny weapons are on the side against the Nazis. I think we have a good shot at it, but it’s not a guarantee.

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        3 months ago

        My brother in freedom, we first need to make sure the US and all of our big shiny weapons are on the side against the Nazis. I think we have a good shot at it, but it’s not a guarantee.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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        3 months ago

        Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states

        When did the US invade a member of NATO, again?

        • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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          3 months ago

          Sorry, their presumed mission of ensuring peace in Europe through collective defense.

          It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.

          But you’re right, the explicit mission is to protect their members and noone else, so I guess everything is working as intended

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            3 months ago

            It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.

            lol

            Tell me more about how America’s aggression turned the Baltic Sea into a NATO lake.

            Fascists like you just can’t help yourselves when it comes to Russia, can you?

            • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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              3 months ago

              I have no problem acknowledging Russia’s aggression and imperialist activities, but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.

              NATO ends up categorizing conflict in Europe into two sides and ignores all conflict originating on the member side. An alliance that includes all members would at least in-theory be more equitable, but we already know that even a global supergovernment can selectively enforce their mission and ignore offenses by particular members.

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                3 months ago

                but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.

                Hey, want to tell me what the European conflict going on right now is and who instigated it?

                Maybe you could also do the last major European conflict too, just for fun?

                “NATO is sabotaging European security” is such a braindead talking point that requires not just ignorance, but active denial of reality. It’s unsurprising that fascist shitheads find it so very appealing to parrot.

                  • YeetPics@mander.xyz
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                    2 months ago

                    You’re reaching, and I’d bet you have been for a long time. Years even.

                    However you aren’t correct, even technically (Which I’m told is the best kind of correct).