Jordan Peterson learns that freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences - eviltoast
  • Jayb151@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s a wild statement to insinuate that your family voting for Trump somehow makes them bad people. Likewise, Peterson has some decent advice that I think should not fully be written off due to his personal life.

    I haven’t really seen anyone in this thread disqualify his argument based on merits and only using their own feelings to say he’s wrong.

    In all honesty, I don’t have a horse in this race, but I don’t think Peterson is a terrible as everyone seems to think. Maybe I’m crazy

    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      You cool with him shilling for fracking billionaires now too?

      most of his “good advice” is just bland generic shit. the awful shit he puts out there far overshadows the generic advice that you could get from mister rogers

      • Leviathan@lemmy.world
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        Seriously. I don’t understand this shit, I’ve even heard this kind of “good advice” garbage about Andrew Tate and “work ethic”. Are you telling me you can’t find a single other person in your chosen field to look up to? You can’t come up with your own personal advice through observation? Why are all these young dudes so desperate to idolize someone?

      • Jayb151@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I mean, just voting for Trump doesn’t objectively make you a bad person… That’s the definition of being subjective. Also, I’m confident in my intelligence, please don’t make lemmy the dumpster fire that is Reddit.

        I’m not saying that Trump is a good person, again this is a discussion of Peterson, but one could argue that aside from Trump’s character he wasn’t the worst president the US has had.

        • Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          So voting for someone that is not a good person doesn’t make you a bad person?

          What is subjective about two impeachments several indictments, incitement to violence, a history of sexual assault?

          Stupid people are often confident in their intelligence.

        • yata@sh.itjust.works
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          I mean, just voting for Trump doesn’t objectively make you a bad person…

          It definitely does.

          but one could argue that aside from Trump’s character he wasn’t the worst president the US has had.

          That is completely irrelevant to the subject about whether voting for Trump objectively makes you a bad person though.

        • yawn@lemmy.world
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          Your argument is purely semantic and not really substantive unless you define what a “bad person” is. That’ll be different to everyone, so without a common operating definition of a “bad person” your point, while technically true, doesn’t really mean anything.

    • karlhungus@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Voting for for trump does make them worse people, they are objectively supporting a racist. Trump family stole money from childrens cancer charity. That’s bad. Likewise I didn’t write off Peterson for his personal life I wrote him off cause his arguments are rooted in the bible.

      Really what makes peterson and trump so bad is that they are completely self centered, and self gratification is their only goal. They care about nobody else.

      I’m sad COVID didn’t kill them.