Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up' - eviltoast
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      1 year ago

      I also think cake tastes good which aligns me straight with Hitler.

          • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            Wouldn’t it more be equivalent to Henry Ford or Hearst press during ww2 claiming that the nazis weren’t brutalizing black and Jewish soldiers?

            Nazi public figure claims nazis in enemy country aren’t doing bad thing.

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          1 year ago

          How about me agreeing with Hitler on “Poland didn’t attack Germany”?

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              Yes. You’re getting close.

              Now if Hitler, or one of his generals, said that the Poles didn’t attack after all, what would you think of that? Might you take it as an admission that the Nazis had lied?

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                I concede that, if we live in your counterfactual reality where Hitler did the exact opposite of what he actually did, you’d have a point.

                I know what you’re trying to say but i think you’re trying to stretch reality to fit your comparison instead of trying to make an accurate comparison around reality.

                Maybe you should look for other real world examples that would fit your comparison better. I bet there are plenty of examples of nazis in nations fighting the nazis doing genocide denial during ww2 that you could find.

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                  I mean I kinda thought of Hitler and him being a cake-eating vegetarian and then had to improvise afterwards. I did try to pedal back a bit and say “or one of his generals”.

                  Oh and it wasn’t just Nazis who denied the holocaust back then. There was an IIRC French historian I can’t recall the name who went in there not believing such a thing possible, then saw concentration camps with his own eyes, and went on to compile a minimum number, with the intent that if you say a lower one, you’re definitely denying because the number is unassailable, as a minimum (but probably higher. Most definitely probably higher, in fact). Threw out e.g. SS reports because they could be claimed to be fabricated to get a promotion and shit.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        You didn’t need to cite hitler as the cake lover, could have picked anyone else

        You didn’t have to pick the fascist mercenary army leader to agree with you on the other one, either. Yet you did for some reason

        Is this supposed to prove anything but you have no scruples?

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          I mean hexbears are otherwise so willing to take Russian sources at face value, e.g. when it comes to claims about Russian speakers getting supposedly oppressed and genocided by the Ukrainian state… then why not trust Pregozhin? What makes him less trustworthy than Solovyov?

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            I can’t speak for everyone, but I definitely don’t find Russian media particularly trustworthy, we like to do a little thing called critical thinking instead of just blindly accepting things

          • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            Russian media is untrustworthy and I’ve yet to meet a hexbear user that says otherwise. We just also recognize American media to be untruswot. Good thing we’re able to critique our sources and think critically