Reality can be disappointing - eviltoast

And unfortunately lemmy.ml is getting more online traffic recently.

  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    What’s a better way to make our little community bigger and better that having pesky antagonisms over every little difference we can find.

    We better centralize over a single instance of people thinking exactly like we do.

    Big /S by the way.

    And I’m not even from .ml but come’on, we share more than we disagree on.

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      The .ml instance has deliberately overt bias and will literally ban you for not agreeing with their interpretation of Marxist-Leninist communism.

      Bad faith “conversation” is their thing.

      Many of their communities are becoming “the Donald” type situations.

      You choose to socialize and mingle with who you want

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        I fully expect the MAGA mentality is fully transferable to any other far-left ideological group with a purity doctrine that is exclusive and abusive to outsiders.

        This mentality is actually ideologically agnostic and will ride any wave it can to feed the emotional needs of the adherent.

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        The .ml instance has deliberately overt bias

        My guy, you’re posting in a thread that’s just Overt Bias + Meme. I don’t think anyone here has room to talk

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          This is a meme.

          I also don’t see anyone running around spouting misinformation here and deliberately misinterpreting history.

          I also don’t see anyone get banned for their opinions here.

          I got banned from a .ml meme/comic sub the other day for knowing more about world history than they did.

          For calling the outright misinformation what it was and just generally not agreeing with them

          Many .ml communities are becoming (or already are) their own little the_donald type communities.

    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      ML is run by tankies, who historically infiltrate, corrupt, and eliminate anarchist projects with anti-socialist, anti-communist, and hierarchical methods and motivations. MLs are to Anarchists as a tapeworm is to a cow.

      Edit: stay mad, tankies.

      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I disagree.

        I’ve worked in actual political projects in the streets. And I haven’t found that.

        You can be forever reading online why some people are the evil incarnated. But when you met and work with people for a common goal reality tend to be better.

        Judging without truly knowing is one of the things we all should be striving to avoid. There are wonderful people everywhere.

        I would recommend yo actually go participate in some common local political protects of you can find some. For me it was eye opening to see that despite one or two things we have common goals, objectives and very likewise minds.

        I also refuse to participate in the endless split of the leftist space, and the never ending false divisions that only weaken us. So for a long time I’ve refused to identify with any particular leftist group. I am just for the common benefit of humandkind and will welcome anyone with the same goal.

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          I don’t know why you are using in person community praxis as a refutation of an online space being toxic

          Real life isn’t online, the issue is an online space being shitty

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            I don’t find .ml specially toxic or shitty. I certainly hasn’t been called “asshole” by any .ml user or in any .ml space recently. Couldn’t say the same for other instances… There are wonderful people everywhere, and sadly bad people everywhere too. As far as .ml .world or any other of these big instances I don’t appreciate any more toxicity in one place or other.

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          You’re assuming a lot about me, typical of tankie apologia. You assert these things without evidence defying my own experience and the wisdom of history. Why should anyone trust you, and even if you’re not making it up, why should we ignore the weight of evidence that lies beyond your anecdotes?

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            You do you. I refuse to keep weakening our common political space for nothing. Because that’s what we’ll get if we keep dividing. Nothing.

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              You sound like an appeaser. If you want an imperfect ally, I recommend liberals. Less dishonest and not as likely to round you up in the middle of the night and put a bullet in your head. Liberals are also more numerous than tankies, less indoctrinated, and not usually as politically aware which makes them easier to educate. There’s no reason to side with tankies over liberals. Tankies also famously divide the left from liberals, probably because they realize if Anarchists can unite against their common enemy with liberals the tankies can’t leverage power away from the Anarchists.

              Tankies aren’t even leftists, so don’t pretend that their spaces are leftist spaces.

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                Got any more names to call me? I’ve already got called tankie apologist, appeaser, anything else?. You have lots of names for those who think different than you. Also lots of hate, sorry for that.

                You choose your allies. But don’t deny people working for the betterment of the working clase the name of leftists, please.

                Edit: I just realized that by liberals you probably mean American liberals, democratic party and such?, not economic liberals? It can be confusing from people elsewhere. Anyway, american “liberals” let’s say the democratic party is cool in my book. Afaik also working for the betterment of their people. But not American so people over there may have a better understanding of those. Where I live the equivalent would probably be the socdems, which are of course allies of mine.

                I feel no need to side between (american)liberals and communists. If some of those refuse each other it is their problem, I would consider both part of the left spectrum and be willing to work with each.

                • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  names to call me

                  I said what you sounded like and what your rhetoric was typical of, I didn’t call you any names. Here’s an actual name for you in particular: You are an asshole. You tried to call me out, assumed things of me that weren’t true, and now you’re pretending that I’m treating you unreasonably. Fuck all the way off.

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                    Ok. Thanks for actually insulting me. Hope you are proud of your words.

                    I will still keep doing all that’s in my hand to improve your live. Assuming you are working class.