It genuinely upsets me that Valve spent their time and resources on another Dota variation - eviltoast

Like for many other people, Valve single player experiences were one of my favorite of all time growing up. I considered both Half-Life and Portal to be masterpieces. It’s true they’ve always been distracted with multiplayer games as well, things like Counter-Strike or Team Fortress and I did play them for sure, because I was a kid and I had all the time in the world.

These days I’m not a kid anymore and so when I game I tend to look more for memorable experiences instead of mindless grinding. Obviously I remember Valve as the experts in creating memorable experiences and I would like them to keep fully exploring those talents. They don’t have that many employees, but they do have all the money in the world, no external pressure, no publisher to shit on them, it’s just their developers and artists and a vision. But then they use all that and create this. An Overwatch looking moba shooter, really? I’m sure people will like and play it, but is this the results of the vision and ambition of a company like Valve?

It doesn’t have to be Half-Life. I remember them saying that they dont want to do another one in the series because they are looking to innovate and make something truly original. My body is ready, give me anything. I can’t imagine a moba shooter really fits with this description. I’m wondering how such a low hanging concept even becomes a real product at a company as ambitious as Valve.

I hear people are having fun with the new game and I’m happy for them. I am no longer the target audience and I wish them good luck with it. In the mean time let me hear your thoughts on it. Would you like to see another single player experience from Valve?

  • wizzim@infosec.pub
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    3 months ago

    +100, my feelings exactly.

    I am now 45. I tried Deadlock, was overwhelmed, some other player told me to “fuck off” through the vocal chat because I was in the wrong lane, I uninstalled.

    Generally, I don’t have time anymore to play online games that are about grind and skill. I don’t want to play only one sort of game. I want a game with an end so that I can move to another one.

    MOBAs were cool at the time of warcraft 3. Let’s move on.

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      3 months ago

      MOBAs were cool at the time of warcraft 3. Let’s move on.

      What kind of statement is this? MOBAs are still insanely popular. And “move on”? as if there’s no reason to iterate or improve on a genre?

      I don’t even play MOBAs but I’ve heard this same sentiment on arena shooters and it makes as much sense there as it does here.

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        3 months ago

        Yeah you’re right. This statement was intended for me.

        Everyone can of course play what they want.

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      3 months ago

      If youre looking for a game with an end then you might wanna stick to single player. Online multiplayer is designed to keep players coming back for more

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      3 months ago

      Let’s move on.

      I enjoy MOBAs a lot, but their communities tend to be so toxic… I’m playing other multiplayer games because I am tired of the toxicity (among other things).

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      3 months ago

      Valve’s last two releases were Half Life Alyx and Aperture Desk Job. Both are single player games.

      Aperture Desk Job even runs on Linux and Steam Deck.