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  • StrongGoal2001@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    The problem is, socialism is worst. We have no choice. I heard about new autosustentable communities… I would like to know more about it

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      1 year ago

      How would you know, have you ever lived in a socialist society? I have and I can tell you first hand, capitalism is so much worse. The problem is that everyone around is capitalist, and yes, you can’t compete with that (tech development and things like that) or you can, but it’s really hard. There are way to mitigate these discrepencies though, it just takes a lot of effort.

      Take a look at the Venus Project, you might like that as well.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t understand the reason for the downvotes. Explain your point instead of downvoting. By the way, I’m from a country (social context) full of Venezuelans and many people from Cuba and Nicaragua. They know what happens with this kind of approach.
        Regarding your point, what you said about competing with capitalism in terms of technological development is interesting. So maybe, in my opinion and being open to what you have to say, we need better alternatives.

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          1 year ago

          I didn’t downvote you BTW, I never downvote, I either upvote or don’t vote at all.

          Socialism as a regieme, for one, doesn’t have a bad name like communism does, and two, has been tried, but in a lot fewer countries than communism has. So, regarding that, I get why many liberal americans are pro socialism, but against communism (even though, there aren’t that many differences, except tye authorotorian nature of communism, but they already have that with their corps, just too blind to actually see it).

          As I said, I’ve lived in both socialism and capitalism (no one ever notices that the first one is a socio-economic order, but the second one is just an economic order 🤔 😁, the social order is democracy 😂), and socialism was a lot better from a lot of aspects. Sure, it wasn’t perfect, there are things that can be made better, but than again, nothing is perfect. What I do firmly believe though is that socialism combined with something like the Venus Project, can make foundations for a great society that actually values human life and everything alive on this earth.

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      1 year ago

      Um, you can have mixed economies that combine aspects of capitalism and socialism, there are several European countries that are doing decent with it. The rampant overconsumption mindset amongst the population, anti consumer behavior from businesses, and government corruption/apathy are some of the biggest issues in the US. Social programs and safetynets along with stricter advertising rules would help steer us into a better direction.