Astrophysicist Avi Loeb: ‘UFOs should be the subject of mainstream inquiry. Science must bring clarity’ - eviltoast
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    That’s not true. The material has been sent to multiple independent laboratories for analysis. Why are you spreading false information here? And do you understand that a thorough scientific analysis and publishing research takes time?

    Edit: Since you’re putting words in his mouth in an attempt to discredit the validity of the subject, here is an actual quote:

    “It has material strength that is tougher than all space rock that were seen before, and catalogued by NASA,” added Loeb, "We calculated its speed outside the solar system. It was 60 km per second, faster than 95% of all stars in the vicinity of the sun. The fact that it was made of materials tougher than even iron meteorites, and moving faster than 95% of all stars in the vicinity of the sun, suggested potentially it could be a spacecraft from another civilization or some technological gadget." Source

    That’s not stating definitely that he has proof of aliens. It’s also the first time material from an interstellar object has been recovered on Earth. This is an exciting development for the scientific community and mankind, but it’s unfortunately being convoluted by people who are too ignorant and narrow-minded to objectively consider the information.

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      So…

      He’s sent it to multiple labs and none of them have backed up his opinion?

      You’re right, I just assumed he wasn’t showing anyone, but if he’s showing it to everyone that will look and none agree with him, it makes sense why he doesn’t talk about it

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        You either have very poor reading comprehension or you’re engaging in disingenuous argumentative strategies intended to blanket discredit without honest consideration or information exchange.

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          Oh…

          So you’re saying at least one of the “many” labs he sent it to agree that it’s proof of aliens?

          I’d love a link, you’d think that would be front page news…

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            I feel like I’m arguing with an anti-vaxxer here… you’re still misrepresenting his claims and the situation.

            He sent the material to labs in order to analyze them for their chemical structure. Not “Hey, prove these are from an alien spaceship!”

            He also has not claimed definitively that they are from an alien spaceship, as you keep falsely claiming. He has stated that it’s molecular structure, trajectory, speed, etc. are all very unusual and that it could be indicative of a piece of manufactured technology, such as a probe, which collided into our planet.

            That is what Avi Loeb has claimed. Not the ignorant misinformation you’re peddling in the comments here.

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              So…

              It doesn’t prove anything, but he keeps saying it does?

              I don’t know why I expected any consistent logic. Having “proof” that doesn’t prove anything is pretty standard for ufo enthusiasts.

              Gotta set a pretty low bar these since it’s easy to disprove this shit.

              I’ll let you get back to it, I heard Walmart has a sale on Reynolds wrap, so I’m sure you’ve got to going with your day

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                Link to all these instances in which Avi Loeb claims definitively this is proof of aliens. Not where he says it “suggests” but where you claim he definitely states it’s proof.

                Let’s see it. Put up, or shut up.

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                  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/avi-loeb-interstellar-object-aliens-b2369534.html

                  But this isn’t productive, the only reason I replied again after saying I was done is conspiracy nutjobs love waiting till then (when they’re likely blocked) and demanding sources so they can claim no response means they’re right…

                  Which is the terrible terrible logic of someone that believes aliens are coming to Earth in secret

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                    For anyone who may see that link but not click it, Avi Loeb does not state this is proof.

                    I’m not a conspiracy nut job. If you had said from the beginning his publicity-seeking can hinder or complicate things, that would be different. But that’s not what you claimed. You made repeated false claims here.

                    I asked you for links because you were making erroneous claims and misquoting him; not because I’m a conspiracy theorist.