SystemD - eviltoast

Ive been runing Debian 12 (kde) since bookworm was released and am loving it.

I have recently discovered Devuan which seems to be Debian without systemd - what is the benefit of removing this init system?

  • redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    1 year ago

    Systemd is huge. It’s a complex project that covers not just the init system, but also process management, networking, mounts, sessions, many other things. Many people think its monolithic design run counter with the Unix philosophy and wish to use distros without systemd.

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      1 year ago

      Just to avoid misunderstandings: it’s not a monotolithic blob, it is thought so because its first project was a system daemon that manages system services. It is described as “a software suite that provides an array of system components for Linux operating systems.”, it is highly modular and offer many optional components that each have their own purpose.

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      1 year ago

      You’re conflating a monorepo and with software monolith.

      The development style of systemd is the same as most BSDs, and nobody in their right mind would argue those are counter to the Unix philosophy.

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      If a collection of programs that each do a specific thing runs counter to the Unix philosophy, then Unix runs counter to the Unix philosophy.