If I live in a red state, would it be better to vote for rfk to take votes away from trump? - eviltoast

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Because there are lots of other people who are not Trump.

    Voting for candidates with more extreme policies shifts the political needle, even if they don’t win.

    • frankPodmore@slrpnk.net
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      4 months ago

      OP has given us no info about the candidates they’re considering other than RFK, who is a lunatic. There’s no merit to encouraging RFK’s views, so Biden should be OP’s choice.

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        RFK has significantly less lunacy than Trump, and is much more coherent than both Biden and Trump.

        He still supports Israel though, so there is no anti genocide candidate.

          • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            The way RFK makes (coherent) arguments in public is streets ahead of Biden and Trump, but so is almost any politician.

            In terms of honesty, RFK is between Biden and Trump. Half truths and populism, rather than the full lies of Trump.

              • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                The Tuskegee experiment is not the same as Flat Earth. Conspiracy theories are not a homogeneous and neither are conspiracy theorists.

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                  3 months ago

                  The Tuskegee Experiment was not a conspiracy theory. So, in that sense you’re right.

                  Conspiracy theories and theorists are homogenous: the flawed thinking is inherent to the concept. Conspiracy theories are untrue by definition, and nothing to do with real conspiracies.

                  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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                    3 months ago

                    Fuck off. The Tuskegee Experiment was a conspiracy. A group of people secretly performed illegal medical experiments on the African American population.

                    Conspiracy theories and theorists are homogenous.

                    Only within each conspiracy. Oliver Stone believes the JFK conspiracy theory but I doubt he believes the elite are literally lizard people.

                    the flawed thinking is inherent to the concept

                    Incorrect. An illegal agreement between two or more parties has no connection to how logical the process is of whoever is suspicious.

                    Conspiracy theories are untrue by definition,

                    Incorrect. They are unproven by definition. They may be true or false.

                    and nothing to do with real conspiracies.

                    Real (I assume you mean proven) conspiracies start off as theories.

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      Voting for other candidates only shifts the needle if they win. If they can’t possibly win, nothing is accomplished by voting for them.