Proton Mail goes AI, security-focused userbase goes ‘what on earth’ - eviltoast

we appear to be the first to write up the outrage coherently too. much thanks to the illustrious @self

  • self@awful.systems
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    4 months ago

    do you get banned from twitter if you call him a fucking asshole?

    I’m working on a more detailed reply on mastodon but to be honest, I’m pretty sure he didn’t read the original post

    • Steve@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      4 months ago

      it all stinks so much. He calls it “opt-in” but the official description of that opt-in is:

      If you try to use Proton Scribe, you will be prompted to chose between local and server-side. So, technically, it’s not active until you decide how, and if, you want to use it.

      as you can see here: https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/112807462045101580

      there is opt-in and then there is dangling an expired hotdog

      • self@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        4 months ago

        holy fuck that’s worse than I thought

        so going back to not being able to recommend Proton to anyone again: there’s now a button (and associated “tutorial” advertising modals trying to get the user to click the button, don’t pretend there won’t be) that when clicked gives the user a confusing choice between an option that might not work and one that exfiltrates their data and claims it doesn’t (if they even get this choice on a computer that doesn’t support the local LLM), and if they interact with that it just opts them into the feature in a state that may or may not (but by default does) expose the plaintext of their messages to Proton’s servers

        and I’m supposed to recommend this horseshit to non-technical users? what’s that sound like, I wonder? “oh it’s a great privacy-oriented mail service you should pay for — but not for your business because you might fuck up and exfiltrate your data, and also there’s a chance they’ll enable the same feature for regular users at some unspecified time in the future so look out for that. oh and don’t get visionary either.” yeah fuck that