Is everyone here leftist? - eviltoast
  • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    4 months ago

    This isn’t about clever sementics, it’s about them not being able to define what something is.

    Progressive isn’t an ideology, you can’t lump it in with leftist ideals because it doesn’t stand for anything.

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      4 months ago

      Yeah, it actually fucking does. It’s the the name. “Progress.” Move forward. As in giving everyone a share, giving everyone a say, and giving everyone a decent life. You know, the opposite of "Conserve.’ Keeping the Status Quo, never changing, a state of perpetual stasis. The rich stay rich, the poor stay poor. Ad Infinitum.

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        4 months ago

        Progress to fucking what? Progress looks very different depending on which direction you want to progress in.

        Likewise the opposite of conserve is not a fair go, that’s semantic bullshittery on your behalf. It’s change and change is neither good nor bad, much the same as conserving is neither good nor bad.

        Various forms of socialism, communism, anarchism, and other leftist beliefs generally have a set of defining traits. What sets “progressive” as different from say georgism?