Living conditions in Ukraine are resembling a new slavery, a triumph of Western 'democracy' in the 21st century - eviltoast
  • severien@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    There’s no other way this could’ve gone

    Of course, it could have gone differently. Putin’s mother could find a different lover and the world would look differently. Putin’s mother is therefore one of the causes, just like the infinite amount of other factors.

    What you’re doing now is the equivalent of analyzing why a certain woman got raped. Factor 1, she’s single, no husband to protect her, factor 2, she went to the club, factor 3 she wore a short skirt … You’re desperately trying to analyze the “factors” to shift the attention, and the blame from the rapist.

    So could Ukraine not find other solutions to their present crises?

    “So could the woman do something differently to avoid being raped?”

    Again, victim blaming.

    The Ukraine state has had it’s existence guaranteed by Russia so long as they concede defeat and allow the independence of the eastern separatists.

    And the “de-nazification”, de-militarization, ceding Kherson and Zaporozhija Oblast, no NATO or other protection. You end up with a rump state just like Czechoslovakia after Munich decree, helpless and ready to be re-invaded (March 1939).

    • Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.ml
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      Putin’s mother is therefore one of the causes, just like the infinite amount of other factors.

      This war would happen with or without putin, the war is due to the collapse of the soviet union, the far right Ukrainian coup, and the Ukrainian government bombing their own people for almost a decade.

      • severien@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        There was no bombing in Ukraine at all until Russia invaded Ukraine.

        Also, who would have guessed that a Stalinist cares about civilians, lol.

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            1 year ago

            You must have some problem with basic logic - the whole thing started with a Russian invasion of Crimea and Donbas in 2014-2015.

            • albigu@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              directly from the wikipedia page:

              In February and March 2014, Russia invaded and subsequently annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine. This event took place in the relative power vacuum on the immediate aftermath of the Revolution of Dignity and was the beginning act of the wider Russo-Ukrainian War.

              Come on, study a bit. Have another one. When did this whole thing start again?

              • severien@lemmy.world
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                1 year ago

                Your quote confirms that Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Still problems with logic?

                  • severien@lemmy.world
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                    1 year ago

                    You mean how Yanukovich’s snipers have been shooting the protesters at the Maidan square? Yeah, sure, that one as well.