Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Prodigy | 2x19 & 2x20 "Ouroboros" - eviltoast

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Loglines

Part I: A desperate Asencia launches an all-out attack on the Federation that will destroy subspace, while Wesley and the cadets try to correct the timeline.

Part II: The cadets fight Asencia in a battle for control of Solum and the future – but a sudden invasion by a destructive species complicates their end-game.

Part I written by: Kevin Hageman & Dan Hageman & Aaron J. Waltke

Part I directed by: Sean Bishop

Part II written by: Kevin Hageman & Dan Hageman & Aaron J. Waltke

Part II directed by: Ruolin Li

  • Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMEnglish
    4·
    6 months ago

    Agreed on all points.

    Jellico’s line about not being able to supply new combadges across the fleet was a pretty funny way to acknowledge the badge inconsistency with the “Picard” flashbacks - I’m going to try not to think about that too hard.

    I’m disappointed that we’ll never get a chance to see Elnor in one of the sailor suits the cadets wore on this show.

    One thing that’s going to bug me for a while is how Solum can progress peacefully without contradicting season one - Ilthuran isn’t exactly on track to become the Diviner at this point.

    • cybervseas@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      One thing that’s going to bug me for a while is how Solum can progress peacefully without contradicting season one

      Temporal Mechanics! ;-)

      • Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMEnglish
        4·
        6 months ago

        Unfortunately, this has bugged me more the more I’ve thought about it. I think it undercuts the urgency of the entire season, which repeatedly emphasized how important it was to send the Protostar through the wormhole and making things exactly the way they were in season one.

        Except it’s apparently fine for Solum to never have its disastrous civil war, and never train soldiers to go back in time, even though that was absolutely critical to the story.

        It seems like an effort to have their cake and eat it, too. Even if you can make it work logically, I don’t think it works thematically.

        • cybervseas@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          6 months ago

          Protecting their reality (the prime timeline) from the Loom is the main source of urgency right? That’s why they needed to get the Protostar to the right place, to protect the present.

          Which creates the chilling thought that the “future” with Solum’s civil war would be consumed by the Loom.

          • Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOPMEnglish
            5·
            6 months ago

            That’s why they needed to get the Protostar to the right place, to protect the present.

            Right, but they’ve engineered a “present” in which Gwyn shouldn’t exist, which is exactly what they spent the bulk of the season trying to avoid, down to her having to wear the armband to stabilize her.

            IDK, at best I think it’s way messier than he should be.