8,000 seat TX church attendance after lead pastor (Trump's spiritual advisor) busted for pedophilia - eviltoast
  • Telorand@reddthat.com
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    5 months ago

    but one pastor, even the lead pastor, doing an evil doesn’t mean the whole church is faulty.

    There’s a reason the saying is “one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.” That kind of fraud and manipulation infects the leadership, wittingly or unwittingly, and I would not be shocked to learn that he’s taught them some bad habits when it comes to outing bad leaders. I myself left another megachurch whose story was very similar to this one, and while it may not be exactly the same, it’s uncanny how the stories rhyme.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t think it can really infect them if they didn’t know about the crime until recently. That being said, I understand your concern. Christians are meant to be built different, though. Jesus was a friend of sinners. We’re not assumed to be corrupted because we hung around someone who was corrupt.

      The way my church’s denomination does it, when a pastor steps down, they pull in a new pastor from another church, which also alleviates this concern. I say this not to defend Gateway Church (their new pastor is the old pastor’s son,) but to demonstrate that not all churches have the problems you hear about.

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        5 months ago

        I’m aware of how other churches operate. “Not all churches, tho” isn’t particularly relevant to the topic, and if you want to get into it, I have plenty to say about the Church as an institution. But that’s not what I was referring to with my comment.

        I wasn’t implying that the congregants are somehow tainted by association or that they are somehow “secretly influenced to be pedophiles.” What I meant is that I know for a fact that followers behave like their leaders, and he likely employed all kinds of mental gymnastics, scriptural torturing, and whatever other tricks to justify why he shouldn’t face justice.

        That influence is increased the closer you are to that leader, which is why it wouldn’t surprise me if the leadership that was under him still contains the tendrils of his abusive influence and subsequently influences the congregants in lesser ways.