Debian used to be so good. What happened!? - eviltoast

Firefox on Debian stable is so old that websites yell at you to upgrade to a newer browser. And last time I tried installing Debian testing (or was it debian unstable?), the installer shat itself trying to make the bootloader. After I got it to boot, apt refused to work because of a missing symlink to busybox. Why on earth do they even need busybox if the base install already comes with full gnu coreutils? I remember Debian as the distro that Just Wroks™, when did it all go so wrong? Is anyone else here having similar issues, or am I doing something wrong?

      • Vilian@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        idk i can do everything that arch can do, with distrobox and having a immutable distro on top

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        5 months ago

        This is funny because on a laptop I had I did this exact same progression - I started on Debian, but it didn’t have the right kernel version for my audio drivers, so I switched to Fedora, but it was running slowly (probably because of gnome, it lets you choose so this was my fault) so I moved to arch (with xfce) because it has a reputation for being relatively lightweight. It worked better, but it took longer to get working with the unusual chromebook hardware.

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          5 months ago

          Man a laptop new enough to require a newer kernel but slow enough for gnome to be slow. That’s an annoying spot to be man.

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            5 months ago

            It wasn’t that new (2017), it just had weird hardware which iirc only recently got supported without proprietary drivers by the new audio system.

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              5 months ago

              That makes a lot more sense. I remember living with $200 laptops for a while and that’s kinda what I was thinking initially.