What is the equivalent stereotype of 'women should all be homemakers,' for men? - eviltoast

I figured a close stereotype for men, would be that they should all be farmers. The thing is, there are under two million farmers in the US as of 2023. So statistically, an equivalent occupation/role should have a larger number.

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    5 months ago

    Unpopular opinion: We should. Obviously as someone who builds and fixes things for living I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills (and so do many women). I think doing things like being able to change a tire on a car is about the bare minimum a man should know how to do. I’ll cut you some slack if you don’t own a car or a licence.

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      5 months ago

      Why a man though - why not just a person?

      What is it that means that men ought to be able to do those things, but not women?

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        All my best workers in shop and on site have been women, hands down. No egos; they listen and learn super-fast; they take great pride in acccomplishment and quality; they don’t tell me how their dad did it or that they’ve “just always done it this way”.

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        Cause in thier minds why is she not in the kitchen pertpually doing chores. Women aren’t people to them. Took so much effort just to give women the right to vote.

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        5 months ago

        Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people. There’s a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it’s not (only) because women aren’t welcome on those fields.

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          Because in general men are good with things and women are good with people.

          Dude, you’ve been thoroughly brainwashed

          There’s a good reason the vast majority of construction workers, mechanics and engineers are men and it’s not (only) because women aren’t welcome on those fields

          …and you double down

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            Check out the actual statistics on what women and men choose an occupations when both people-related and non-people-related jobs are otherwise equal. There’s quite a bit of evidence that men and women tend to prefer occupations in one or the other category.

            Honestly, looking at how different men and women are physically, it is slightly absurd to assume that they are identical psychologically (i.e. have the exact same preference regarding people-oriented vs. technical occupations).

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            No, you’ve been brainwashed.

            This is how productive your reply was. Are you going to elaborate or you here just to throw shit? Just telling someone they’re wrong isn’t exactly going to make them change their mind about it. Counter the argument - not the person saying it.

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              I don’t care if you change your mind… You are likely too far gone to think anything but man=labour, women=feels

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          I think that’s a massive over-generalisation to be honest. Women are just as capable at any of those things.

          I’m not sure why you would want to look down on people who don’t know how to do a thing, but at least do it equally.

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            Ofcourse it’s a generalization. I’m speaking of all men and women as groups. This isn’t about individuals.

            If you pick random 100 men and random 100 women from the population and give them the task of building/fixing something the men are going to perform better every single time.

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      Yeah I think men and women should all have some basic level of repair skills. I feel like somewhere along the line everyone got too afraid to break things or hurt themselves.

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      I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills

      That is a lot biased to the point that you can’t even see that other men’s lives may have put them in a position of not learning those things or even wanting to learn those things. It’s great that you know how to do those things but just because someone has a penis doesn’t mean they have to learn how to be handy. That doesn’t make them any less of a man, just different from you.