Doesn't matter how you try to justify it... - eviltoast
  • Zozano@aussie.zone
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    5 months ago

    I’m sure we can both agree that Hitler wasn’t a socialist.

    The difference here is that you presuppose people are poorly interpreting the bible when they choose one contradiction over another.

    There is no interpretation of communism where the current state of China is permitted.

    The bible CLEARLY endorses/encourages/condones MANY fucked up stances and never corrects for them.

    Paul is a good Christian, since what he says is in the bible.

    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      There’s no difference, you’re just a hypocrite. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander: either a message is corruptible, or it isn’t. Either the total corpus of Christianity/Communism is canon, or it isn’t. Either the evils enshrined in later “Communist” literature is sacrosanct, or the evils enshrined in later “Christian” literature is suspect. “The Bible” is a political corruption of Christianity no less than modern China is a political corruption of Communism. If the Bible denotes the definitive Christianity, then Mao denotes the definitive Marxism.

      To claim otherwise it’s hypocritical double-speak. Are you a hypocrite, or do you acknowledge the Bible might be a slightly more politically compromised document than you’ve heretofore claimed?

      • Zozano@aussie.zone
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        5 months ago

        You’re a hypocrite.

        There are no inconsistencies in the communist manifesto as far as I’m aware. It certainly doesn’t endorse totalitarian dictatorships or genocide (though the bible does, multiple times).

        Yet, your bible details rules for slaves and never corrects itself. The bible endorses and encourages slavery. You just choose to ignore it.

        I’m not a hypocrite.

        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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          5 months ago

          The Bible is a particular selection of disparate writings collected over centuries and codified millennia after the events described.

          By like comparison, Communism as a corpus is composed of the exploits of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

          The gospels of Christianity are more similar to the Manifesto itself, and contain none of the dictatorships or genocides to which you allude. The gospels do not encourage slavery. If you judge the Bible based on the commentaries and political corruptions, then so judge Communism by gulags and genocides. If one is corruption, then both are. If one is canon, then both are. If you judge Christianity by Paul, judge Communism by Mao. Mao published. Paul published. If it’s unfair to judge Communism by Mao, it’s unfair to judge Christianity by Paul.

          Make up your mind.